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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/20] Get rid of the concept of hot/cold page freeing
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:37:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223013723.1d8f11c1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1235344649-18265-21-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:17:29 +0000 Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> Currently an effort is made to determine if a page is hot or cold when
> it is being freed so that cache hot pages can be allocated to callers if
> possible. However, the reasoning used whether to mark something hot or
> cold is a bit spurious. A profile run of kernbench showed that "cold"
> pages were never freed so it either doesn't happen generally or is so
> rare, it's barely measurable.
> 
> It's dubious as to whether pages are being correctly marked hot and cold
> anyway. Things like page cache and pages being truncated are are considered
> "hot" but there is no guarantee that these pages have been recently used
> and are cache hot. Pages being reclaimed from the LRU are considered
> cold which is logical because they cannot have been referenced recently
> but if the system is reclaiming pages, then we have entered allocator
> slowpaths and are not going to notice any potential performance boost
> because a "hot" page was freed.
> 
> This patch just deletes the concept of freeing hot or cold pages and
> just frees them all as hot.
> 

Well yes.  We waffled for months over whether to merge that code originally.

What tipped the balance was a dopey microbenchmark which I wrote which
sat in a loop extending (via write()) and then truncating the same file
by 32 kbytes (or thereabouts).  Its performance was increased by a lot
(2x or more, iirc) and no actual regressions were demonstrable, so we
merged it.

Could you check that please?  I'd suggest trying various values of 32k,
too.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-22 23:17 [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 01/20] Replace __alloc_pages_internal() with __alloc_pages_nodemask() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 02/20] Do not sanity check order in the fast path Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 03/20] Do not check NUMA node ID when the caller knows the node is valid Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:24     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 11:55   ` [PATCH] mm: clean up __GFP_* flags a bit Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 18:01     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:27       ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-23 15:23   ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 15:41     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:43       ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:40         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:03           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24  1:32           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24  3:59             ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24  5:20               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24 11:36             ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33     ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33       ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 17:41         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 05/20] Check only once if the zonelist is suitable for the allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 06/20] Break up the allocator entry point into fast and slow paths Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 07/20] Simplify the check on whether cpusets are a factor or not Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  7:14   ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-02-23  9:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23  9:13       ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:39         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 13:19           ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23  9:14   ` Li Zefan
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 08/20] Move check for disabled anti-fragmentation out of fastpath Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 09/20] Calculate the preferred zone for allocation only once Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 10/20] Calculate the migratetype " Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 11/20] Inline get_page_from_freelist() in the fast-path Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  7:21   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:42     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:32   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 13:32     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 14:08       ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 15:03         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 12/20] Inline __rmqueue_smallest() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 13/20] Inline buffered_rmqueue() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  7:24   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:44     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 14/20] Do not call get_pageblock_migratetype() more than necessary Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 15/20] Do not disable interrupts in free_page_mlock() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  9:19   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 12:23     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 12:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:25         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 16/20] Do not setup zonelist cache when there is only one node Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 17/20] Do not double sanity check page attributes during allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 18/20] Split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 19/20] Batch free pages from migratetype per-cpu lists Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 20/20] Get rid of the concept of hot/cold page freeing Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  9:37   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-02-23 23:30     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 23:53       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24 11:51         ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25  0:01           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-25 16:01             ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25 16:19               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-26 16:37                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:00                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-26 17:15                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:30                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:33                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-27 15:40                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-03-03 13:52                             ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-03 18:53                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:38                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01 10:37                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-25 18:33               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 12:34   ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:34   ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocato Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23  0:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 14:32   ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:49     ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24 14:32       ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23  7:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23  8:34   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-23  9:10   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-23 11:55 ` [PATCH] mm: gfp_to_alloc_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:00   ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 18:17   ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 22:59   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24  8:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 14:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:00   ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:22     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 20:26       ` Mel Gorman

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