From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Metzger, Markus T" <markus.t.metzger@intel.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] forget_original_parent: split out the un-ptrace part
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:46:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223164632.GA16294@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090220022746.8852CFC2F7@magilla.sf.frob.com>
On 02/19, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > +static inline int task_detached(struct task_struct *p)
>
> Maybe take the opportunity to make it bool?
> Clearly trivial, but a bit of implicit documentation that doesn't hurt.
Agreed. Actually I was going to do this, but forgot.
I'll send the cleanup patch.
> > +void exit_ptrace(struct task_struct *tracer)
> > +{
> > + struct task_struct *p, *n;
> > + LIST_HEAD(ptrace_dead);
>
> I think this can do a short-circuit for the common case and avoid the lock:
>
> if (list_empty(&tracer->ptraced))
> return;
4/4 does this, but
> I see your patch 4/4 on this. In fact, I think the short-circuit
> optimization of these two cases should be two separate patches.
agreed,
> The real-child optimization is just a new
> optimization beyond the status quo. It can really be considered wholly
> after this whole series (and probably just punted because it gets so hairy).
Yes. You can see from the changelog that I don't actually like this
optimizatio very much. Because it complicates the code, adds the barrier,
but needs thread_group_empty().
If we are going to optimize out tasklist in forget_original_parent(), then
I'd prefer http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=123438710725342
But this needs a fat comment. And I didn't think carefully about this code.
> (I don't
> see how release_task() could be a problem at all.
This was mostly about forget_original_parent...
But from the _pure theoretical_ pov, it is not correct to assume that
list_empty(&tracer->ptraced) == T means that current can not be used
somehow as tracee->parent. Another subthread can release a dead tracee.
For example, list_empty(&tracer->ptraced) == T doesn't mean that the
STOREs to this task_struct are finished, list_del_init(->ptrace_entry)
can still be in progress.
But since we take tasklist before release_task(current) we are safe,
even in theory.
> You didn't mention ptrace_traceme() in your 4/4 message.
And I guess you want to know why I didn't...
Because I forgot completely about traceme! Thanks Roland.
> In fact, that seems
> like a new hole, period--without the short-circuit optimization.
I think you are right, the current code looks racy too.
> That seems addressed by e.g.:
>
> --- a/kernel/ptrace.c
> +++ b/kernel/ptrace.c
> @@ -534,7 +534,7 @@ repeat:
> * Set the ptrace bit in the process ptrace flags.
> * Then link us on our parent's ptraced list.
> */
> - if (!ret) {
> + if (!ret && !(current->real_parent->flags & PF_EXITING)) {
> current->ptrace |= PT_PTRACED;
Yes sure.
But this means exit_ptrace() must always take tasklist, otherwise we
don't have the necessary barriers.
I am still feeling bad, will try to think more later.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-23 16:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-11 21:12 [PATCH 1/4] forget_original_parent: split out the un-ptrace part Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-20 2:27 ` Roland McGrath
2009-02-23 16:46 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-02-23 18:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-23 18:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-02-25 0:34 ` Roland McGrath
2009-02-25 20:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
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