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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au, tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@goop.org,
	cpw@sgi.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:12:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090224141217.GA17287@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49A3F5C5.4060107@kernel.org>


* Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:

> What's missing is unification of static and dynamic accessors 
> and thus the faster accessors - percpu_read() and friends - 
> for dynamic ones. This will be the next round of patches.

Ok, good - we are in agreement then and i'll wait for those 
patches.

And i think i finally decoded the real source of the disconnect
:-)

It's still about this restriction:

+       /*
+        * If large page isn't supported, there's no benefit in doing
+        * this.  Also, embedding allocation doesn't play well with
+        * NUMA.
+        */
+       if (!cpu_has_pse || pcpu_need_numa())
+               return -EINVAL;

This is what makes no sense (why force the static percpu area 
into 4K mappings on NUMA).

You do it because i think you misunderstood my original 2MB TLB 
static area suggestion. setup_pcpu_embed() does this now:

+       pcpue_ptr = pcpu_alloc_bootmem(0, num_possible_cpus() * pcpue_unit_size,
+                                      PAGE_SIZE);

That is not NUMA-friendly indeed.

What should be done instead is to up the unit size to 2MB as i 
suggested, and to allocate 2MB sized and 2MB aligned 
numa-correct area for each CPU, via bootmem.

To quote my original mail:

> > - allocate the static percpu area using bootmem-alloc, but
> >   using a 2MB alignment parameter and a 2MB aligned size. Then
> >   we can remap it to some convenient and undisturbed virtual
> >   memory area, using 2MB TLBs. [*]

I.e. each individual 2MB allocated largepage can then be 
remapped as a 2MB TLB to the high (vmalloc) area. Followed by 
ordinary 4K mappings for regular percpu_alloc() pages.

( and the partial, unused pages within this initial chunk are 
  returned to bootmem. )

That will be NUMA-friendly and i suspect we should also use it 
on SMP just to get that aspect of the code tested better.

Do _not_ allocate the units together in one bootmem allocation 
because that's not NUMA-friendly.

Ok?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-24 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-24  3:11 [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 01/10] percpu: fix pcpu_chunk_struct_size Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 02/10] bootmem: clean up arch-specific bootmem wrapping Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 11:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-24 11:39     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 03/10] bootmem: reorder interface functions and add a missing one Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 04/10] vmalloc: add @align to vm_area_register_early() Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 05/10] x86: update populate_extra_pte() and add populate_extra_pmd() Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 06/10] percpu: remove unit_size power-of-2 restriction Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 07/10] percpu: give more latitude to arch specific first chunk initialization Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 08/10] x86: separate out setup_pcpu_4k() from setup_per_cpu_areas() Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 09/10] x86: add embedding percpu first chunk allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  3:11 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: add remapping " Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  9:57 ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 11:48   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 12:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 13:27       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 14:12         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-02-24 14:37           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 15:15             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 23:33               ` Tejun Heo
2009-03-04  0:03             ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-04  0:15               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-03-04  0:50                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 12:51     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 14:47       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 15:19         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 15:30           ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 13:02     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 14:40       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 20:51   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 21:02     ` Yinghai Lu
2009-02-24 21:12     ` [PATCH] x86: check range in reserve_early() -v2 Yinghai Lu
2009-02-24 21:16     ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25  2:09       ` [PATCH x86/core/percpu 1/2] x86, percpu: fix minor bugs in setup_percpu.c Tejun Heo
2009-02-25  2:10       ` [PATCH x86/core/percpu 2/2] x86: convert cacheflush macros inline functions Tejun Heo
2009-02-25  2:23       ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation Tejun Heo
2009-02-25  2:56         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-25 12:59         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25 13:43           ` WARNING: at include/linux/percpu.h:159 __create_workqueue_key+0x1f6/0x220() Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26  2:03             ` [PATCH core/percpu] percpu: fix too low alignment restriction on UP Tejun Heo
2009-02-26  3:26               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-25  6:40       ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] improve the first percpu chunk allocation Rusty Russell
2009-02-25 12:54         ` Ingo Molnar

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