From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@android.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@ti.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Kyle Moffett <kyle@moffetthome.net>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
mark gross <mgross@linux.intel.com>,
Uli Luckas <u.luckas@road.de>,
Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>,
Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:12:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090227101247.GF4582@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902211047.26787.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi!
> > > And if the kernel is supposed to start automatic suspend, it has to monitor
> > > all of the wakelocks. IMO, it's better to allow the power manager to poll the
> > > kernel if it refuses to suspend.
> >
> > What is better about polling in userspace?
>
> One kernel thread less, for example?
One kernel thread is about as costly as one userland thread. And I
believe we should not design new code that _needs_ polling.
I think it is better to have kernel thread than userland polling us
all the time.
Now... on PC it will be "interesting". Your solution has great
advantage of being able to work with s2ram quirks... But s2ram quirks
are not an issue on embedded hardware or OLPC, and hopefully kernel
mode setting will fix it on PCs, too...
Pavel
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Thread overview: 195+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-15 23:10 [RFD] Automatic suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 0:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 2:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-16 2:20 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-16 3:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 7:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 16:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 17:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 20:08 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-02-16 20:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 20:39 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 20:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 21:32 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-16 21:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:36 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-16 22:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 23:23 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 10:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-17 13:58 ` Mark Brown
2009-02-17 14:20 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-17 14:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-17 14:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 14:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 15:32 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 0:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 0:18 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 5:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 0:52 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 5:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 5:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 15:15 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-18 15:20 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-17 14:58 ` Igor Stoppa
2009-02-17 15:28 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-18 0:55 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 2:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-18 17:48 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-18 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-18 18:01 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-18 22:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-01 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 10:00 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-18 0:45 ` mark gross
2009-02-20 5:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 15:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-20 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-20 18:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-20 20:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 22:43 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-16 23:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 3:09 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 23:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 4:46 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 21:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 22:35 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-18 22:44 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 23:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 23:31 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 12:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 14:59 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 21:56 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-19 22:08 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-19 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-19 22:58 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 10:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 22:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:11 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-21 1:59 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 2:39 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 10:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 11:26 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 15:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 16:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-02-20 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:03 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 1:08 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-21 9:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 10:32 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-21 20:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-23 23:13 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-23 23:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-24 0:02 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 10:12 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-02-27 10:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 14:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 14:29 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-27 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 22:09 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 22:56 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-27 23:44 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-28 3:04 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-28 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-28 21:57 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-28 22:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-28 23:38 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-01 23:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-02 23:48 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-03 22:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 23:38 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-04 0:49 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 0:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-01 6:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-01 9:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-01 9:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-03-03 1:22 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-03 13:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-04 0:06 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-03-04 0:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 23:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-03 13:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-03 23:51 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-02-20 23:12 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 23:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-20 23:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-21 9:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-21 16:52 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-21 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-27 10:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 14:46 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-27 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 14:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-23 14:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-27 10:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 15:22 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-03-05 16:54 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-27 17:09 ` Chris Friesen
2009-02-27 20:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-05 13:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-02 8:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-03-02 14:34 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-02 15:13 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-20 18:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 6:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-02-16 15:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 7:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 21:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 21:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-16 21:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 22:40 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 22:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 2:43 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 2:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-17 3:26 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 23:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-17 2:56 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-17 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-18 8:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 14:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-18 15:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 15:10 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-18 15:55 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 16:39 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-18 17:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-18 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2009-02-16 22:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 22:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-16 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-16 23:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:29 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-16 22:58 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-16 23:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-16 23:26 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 14:14 ` Brian Swetland
2009-02-17 14:19 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 21:57 ` mark gross
2009-02-17 22:04 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-02-17 22:19 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-17 23:28 ` Woodruff, Richard
2009-02-18 0:34 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 17:30 ` Chris Ball
2009-02-16 23:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-22 13:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-18 0:27 ` mark gross
2009-02-18 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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