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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	me@felipebalbi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, felipe.balbi@nokia.com,
	dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, sameo@openedhand.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:26:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090302232650.GA14515@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200903021520.30826.david-b@pacbell.net>


* David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:

> On Monday 02 March 2009, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 14:10 -0800, David Brownell wrote:
> > 
> > > What's unfortunate is that you prefer not to fix that
> > > IRQF_DISABLED bug in lockdep, which you co-"maintain".
> > > When running with lockdep, that bug (a) introduces bugs
> > > in some drivers and (b) hides bugs in others.  You've
> > > rejected even a minimal warning fix, to help minimize
> > > the amount of time developers waste on (a) and (b).
> > 
> > I've come to the conclusion that the only technically sound solution is
> > to do as I proposed today, utterly eliminate !IRQF_DISABLED handlers.
> 
> As you announced today.  If you truly believe that, then
> you should at least submit a warning patch for 2.6.29-rc
> ("driver X isn't setting IRQF_DISABLED, reimplement!")

i have changed the BUG_ON() to a WARN_ONCE() message so the 
warning is in place now.

> with a Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt plan for 
> removing that mechanism. [...]

you are misunderstanding the workings and purpose of 
feature-removal-schedule.txt. It is mainly used for 
functionality that is user-visible. It is sometimes used for 
functionality that a subsystem has exported to a lot of drivers 
consciously and which is being removed.

It is never used for a single driver finding a core kernel 
symbol and abusing it in a way that was never intended. Abuse of 
kernel internals by kernel code was never a 'feature'. Just 
because you find a symbol (which is not even exported to 
drivers) does not mean you can use it like that.

If you want to work on genirq threaded IRQ handlers them please 
check out and test the threaded IRQ handlers patches that are 
being worked on at lkml. See:

[patch 0/4] genirq: add infrastructure for threaded interrupt handlers V2

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-02 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-27 19:28 [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] mfd: twl4030: add twl4030-pwrbutton as our child Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 20:36   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 21:58     ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 22:09       ` Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 22:12       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 23:20         ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:42           ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-22 19:27             ` Trilok Soni
2009-07-22 22:25               ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 20:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 20:37   ` Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 21:50     ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver) David Brownell
2009-02-27 22:09       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 23:18         ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:32           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  0:01             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  2:30               ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  2:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  4:46                   ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  5:12                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  6:17                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 11:13                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 12:16                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 16:42                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 20:02                           ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 20:55                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 21:13                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 22:37                                 ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 22:05                               ` David Brownell
2009-03-01  9:43                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-01 22:54                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 13:16                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 21:04                                       ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 21:16                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 21:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 21:37                                           ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 21:41                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:09                                               ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:19                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:40                                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:51                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:29                                                       ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  7:45                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:46                                                   ` lockdep and threaded IRQs David Miller
2009-03-02 22:57                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 23:07                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:02                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:35                                           ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Alan Cox
2009-03-01 22:11                               ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 11:48                     ` lockdep and threaded IRQs Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 20:19                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 21:10                         ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-02 13:16           ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:10             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:20                 ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:26                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-02 23:42                     ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:33                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  0:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  2:37                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  9:27                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-03  9:45                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  9:47                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 10:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 10:30                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 10:39                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-03 10:48                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 11:13                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 11:33                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 11:19                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-18  1:04                                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:00                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:14                             ` [patch/rfc 0/2] handle_threaded_irq() David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:19                               ` [patch/rfc 1/2] GENIRQ: add handle_threaded_irq() flow handler David Brownell
2009-03-18 12:00                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-18 18:31                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-18 18:32                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-18  2:22                               ` [patch/rfc 2/2] twl4030: use new " David Brownell
2009-03-03 11:53                       ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-05  2:49                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-06 14:40                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-18  3:06                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:48                     ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:58                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 15:13           ` [PATCH] genirq: assert that irq handlers are indeed run in hardirq context Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 19:48             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:01             ` [tip:irq/genirq] genirq: assert that irq handlers are indeed running " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-10  7:11               ` Eric Miao
2009-04-10  9:57                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 11:20       ` lockdep and threaded IRQs Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 20:10         ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  5:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Trilok Soni
2009-02-28 12:05   ` [PATCH] mfd: twl4030: add twl4030-pwrbutton as our child Felipe Balbi
2009-02-28 22:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-01  0:30   ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-01  0:58     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-01 14:40       ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-04  9:00         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-04 10:12           ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-05  1:38             ` David Brownell
2009-03-05 23:54           ` David Brownell
2009-03-06  9:43             ` Dmitry Torokhov

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