From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:08:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090305210840.GA2499@x200.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1236280567.22399.99.camel@nimitz>
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 11:16:07AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 20:40 +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:38:57AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > This takes a suggestion of Ingo's along with comments from lots of
> > > other people. It can track whether a given file is able to be
> > > checkpointed. It introduces a f_op to allow easy customization
> > > like the reset of the VFS.
> >
> > Here is how alternative looks like
> > * without touching VFS at all
> > * without adding default handlers
>
> Are these bad things? If this was harmful to the VFS, I can bet
> Christoph would be speaking up. As far as the default handlers, blame
> Christoph. :)
It's too much for too little and unreliable. See below.
> > * without duplicate code every ->checkpoint hook will have
>
> Well, I had actually planned to break the generic function up into a
> "common" function that all of the handlers can call or could be called
> before each handler. This is trivially fixable, but it would look kinda
> goofy without some code to use it.
>
> > * without largely useless "special file" messages
> > (what's so special about it?)
>
> Very true. I'll improve that one.
>
> > * without adding userspace-visible /proc/*/checkpointable
>
> Ingo, could you weigh in on how you expected this "checkpointable" flag
> to get exposed to and checked by userspace?
>
> > * without recalculating "checkpointable" property on fs_struct
> > on every C/R=y kernel.
>
> Yeah, this is certainly less than ideal. Although, I haven't seen your
> proposal for where to tie your code into the kernel. Do you suggest
> that we do nothing during normal kernel runtime and all the checking at
> sys_checkpoint() time?
Of course!
C/R won't be used by majority of users, so it shouldn't bring any
overhead. ->f_op->checkpoint (not ->checkpointable!) is probably
acceptable. Recalculating flags is not, sorry.
Imagine, unsupported file is opened between userspace checks
for /proc/*/checkpointable and /proc/*/fdinfo/*/checkpointable
and whatever, you stil have to do all the checks inside checkpoint(2).
> > It may lack some printk, but printks are trivial to insert including
> > using d_path for precise info.
>
> This is definitely workable approach. However, could you show how you
> would support /dev/null and, say, /proc/$$/stat? I've shown what it
> takes to do that in my patches, and I think it would show a lot about
> your approach.
I haven't yet written code for /dev/null, but it would be:
* at checkpoint(2)
** see it's block device
** see it's 1:3 => supported
** dump "1:3", dump "/dev/null" as filename
* at restore(2)
** read CR_OBJ_FILE
** open filename or -E
** if not block device return -E
** if not 1:3 return -E
** save "struct file *" where needed
(all of this is modulo unlinked case)
/proc/*/stat is much trickier (and BTW can very well ruin idea of piping
dumpfile to somewhere by introducing honest loops in restoration hierarchy)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-05 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-05 16:38 [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/11] kill '_data' in cr_hdr_fd_data name Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/11] breakout fdinfo sprintf() into its own function Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/11] Introduce generic_file_checkpoint() Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/11] actually use f_op in checkpoint code Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/11] add generic checkpoint f_op to ext fses Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 2:50 ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/11] add checkpoint_file_generic() to /proc Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/11] file c/r: expose functions to query fs support Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/11] expose file checkpointability and reasoning in /proc Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/11] check files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-09 17:38 ` Matt Helsley
2009-03-12 19:14 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/11] add checkpoint/restart compile helper Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 16:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/11] optimize c/r check in dup_fd() Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 17:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-05 19:16 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 21:08 ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2009-03-05 21:27 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 22:00 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-03-05 22:24 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 14:34 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 15:48 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 16:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 16:46 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-06 18:24 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 19:42 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-13 3:05 ` Oren Laadan
2009-03-06 15:08 ` Greg Kurz
2009-03-06 15:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-06 17:36 ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-06 18:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-11 7:51 ` Cedric Le Goater
2009-03-12 15:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-13 6:36 ` Ensuring c/r maintainability (WAS Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability) Matt Helsley
2009-03-13 17:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-05 19:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/11] track files for checkpointability Dave Hansen
2009-03-05 18:13 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-05 18:16 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-10 15:57 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 16:00 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 16:23 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 16:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 17:23 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-03-10 17:45 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-10 17:47 ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-10 16:22 ` Dave Hansen
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