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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	tux3@tux3.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Tux3] Tux3 report: Tux3 Git tree available
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:36:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200903142036.50335.phillips@phunq.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljraof5u.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>

On Thursday 12 March 2009, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net> writes:
> >> > > - What's "L"?
> >> > > 
> >> > > 		printf("%Lx-", (L)begin);
> >> > 
> >> > A very handy way of working around 32/64 bit format string issues.  We
> >> > just cast all the messy cases to (long long), aka (L).  All other
> >> > solutions to this messy problem are worse in my opinion, but whatever
> >> > the ruling is, is what we will do.  This is used heavily in tracing and
> >> > dumping code, which can all be turned off with ifdefs, so it doesn't
> >> > affect production kernel text.
> >> 
> >> What format string issues are we talking about here?
> >> 
> >> See, a number of them will be fixed real soon now (geologically
> >> speaking) when various 64-bit architectures switch their s64/u64
> >> implementation from `long' to `long long'.
> >
> > Ah, that would be helpful.  But not done yet?  How long until it
> > happens, and does it make sense to wait, so we can reduce the number
> > of problems cases?  And... will it be all 64 bit arches or just some?
> > Because this issue isn't solved if it isn't fixed for all arches.
> >
> > There are a couple of issues, one is u64 being (long) instead of
> > (long long) as you say, and the other is variable type sizes like
> > loff_t.  That specific one isn't actually a problem, we can just refuse
> > to support 32 bit libc file ops, but there may be others.  We had a
> > world of pain before (L) arrived, then with (L) it was easy.  Maybe
> > just edit them all to (long long) for now, and damn the line length.
> 
> BTW, those are almost because of userland issue. Kernel are more and
> more using same type. But, glibc is not. And we (tux3) are sharing the
> same code with kernel and userland. Some types are depending to
> CONFIG_*, so if we have generic cast type like (L).
> 
> [The fatfs also has own type (llu), if it become generic, fatfs will
> also be happy.]
> 
> Thanks.

Maybe we should argue for some generic flavor of the (L)/(llu) idea
then.  I suppose we should figure out exactly how much of our usage
will remain after the kernel issue is resolved.  One small thing we
could do is make it a typedef instead of a macro.  And spelling it
out completely as (long long) is not so bad, except it loses the
desirable property of being able to grep for the messy thing, and
adds a painful amount of useless line length, given how frequently
the issue shows up.

Regards,

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-15  3:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-11 16:25 Tux3 report: Tux3 Git tree available Daniel Phillips
2009-03-11 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12  5:38   ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12  6:07     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12  8:33       ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12  8:47         ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12  9:00           ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12  9:10             ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 10:15               ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 11:03                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 12:24                   ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 12:32                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-12 12:45                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 13:12                         ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 13:06                       ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 13:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 13:59                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-12 14:19                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15  3:24                         ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15  3:50                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15  4:08                             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15  4:14                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15  2:41                       ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15  3:45                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15 21:44                           ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-15 22:41                             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-16 10:32                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16  5:12                             ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-16  6:38                               ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-16 10:14                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:06                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-13  9:32                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:00           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15  3:54             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12  9:47         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-03-12 10:25           ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 15:30         ` Diego Calleja
2009-03-12 16:54         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15  3:36           ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2009-03-15  4:26             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-12 13:24       ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-12 21:24         ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 23:38           ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-15  3:03             ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 21:02     ` Roland Dreier
2009-03-15  4:02       ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 16:18   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-12 20:02     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 20:46       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15  3:58         ` Daniel Phillips

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