From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
tux3@tux3.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Tux3] Tux3 report: Tux3 Git tree available
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:36:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200903142036.50335.phillips@phunq.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ljraof5u.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>
On Thursday 12 March 2009, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Daniel Phillips <phillips@phunq.net> writes:
> >> > > - What's "L"?
> >> > >
> >> > > printf("%Lx-", (L)begin);
> >> >
> >> > A very handy way of working around 32/64 bit format string issues. We
> >> > just cast all the messy cases to (long long), aka (L). All other
> >> > solutions to this messy problem are worse in my opinion, but whatever
> >> > the ruling is, is what we will do. This is used heavily in tracing and
> >> > dumping code, which can all be turned off with ifdefs, so it doesn't
> >> > affect production kernel text.
> >>
> >> What format string issues are we talking about here?
> >>
> >> See, a number of them will be fixed real soon now (geologically
> >> speaking) when various 64-bit architectures switch their s64/u64
> >> implementation from `long' to `long long'.
> >
> > Ah, that would be helpful. But not done yet? How long until it
> > happens, and does it make sense to wait, so we can reduce the number
> > of problems cases? And... will it be all 64 bit arches or just some?
> > Because this issue isn't solved if it isn't fixed for all arches.
> >
> > There are a couple of issues, one is u64 being (long) instead of
> > (long long) as you say, and the other is variable type sizes like
> > loff_t. That specific one isn't actually a problem, we can just refuse
> > to support 32 bit libc file ops, but there may be others. We had a
> > world of pain before (L) arrived, then with (L) it was easy. Maybe
> > just edit them all to (long long) for now, and damn the line length.
>
> BTW, those are almost because of userland issue. Kernel are more and
> more using same type. But, glibc is not. And we (tux3) are sharing the
> same code with kernel and userland. Some types are depending to
> CONFIG_*, so if we have generic cast type like (L).
>
> [The fatfs also has own type (llu), if it become generic, fatfs will
> also be happy.]
>
> Thanks.
Maybe we should argue for some generic flavor of the (L)/(llu) idea
then. I suppose we should figure out exactly how much of our usage
will remain after the kernel issue is resolved. One small thing we
could do is make it a typedef instead of a macro. And spelling it
out completely as (long long) is not so bad, except it loses the
desirable property of being able to grep for the messy thing, and
adds a painful amount of useless line length, given how frequently
the issue shows up.
Regards,
Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-15 3:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-11 16:25 Tux3 report: Tux3 Git tree available Daniel Phillips
2009-03-11 18:42 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 5:38 ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 6:07 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 8:33 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 8:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 9:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 9:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 10:15 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 11:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 12:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 12:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-12 12:45 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 13:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 13:06 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 13:04 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 13:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-03-12 14:19 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15 3:24 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15 4:08 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15 2:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-15 3:45 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-15 21:44 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-15 22:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-16 10:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-16 5:12 ` Dave Chinner
2009-03-16 6:38 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-16 10:14 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:06 ` Theodore Tso
2009-03-13 9:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-12 17:00 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15 3:54 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 9:47 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-03-12 10:25 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 15:30 ` Diego Calleja
2009-03-12 16:54 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15 3:36 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2009-03-15 4:26 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-12 13:24 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-12 21:24 ` [Tux3] " Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 23:38 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-15 3:03 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 21:02 ` Roland Dreier
2009-03-15 4:02 ` Daniel Phillips
2009-03-12 16:18 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-12 20:02 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-12 20:46 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-15 3:58 ` Daniel Phillips
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