From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Frédéric Weisbecker" <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>,
"Paul Mackerras" <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][GIT PULL] tracing: add function profiler
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:12:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090321141200.GA20710@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1237636623.4667.223.camel@laptop>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 04:26 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This patch adds a function profiler. In debugfs/tracing/ two new
> > > files are created.
> > >
> > > function_profile_enabled - to enable or disable profiling
> > >
> > > trace_stat/functions - the profiled functions.
> > >
> > > For example:
> > >
> > > echo 1 > /debugfs/tracing/function_profile_enabled
> > > ./hackbench 50
> > > echo 0 > /debugfs/tracing/function_profile_enabled
> > >
> > > yields:
> > >
> > > cat /debugfs/tracing/trace_stat/functions
> > >
> > > Function Hit
> > > -------- ---
> > > _spin_lock 10106442
> > > _spin_unlock 10097492
> > > kfree 6013704
> > > _spin_unlock_irqrestore 4423941
> > > _spin_lock_irqsave 4406825
> > > __phys_addr 4181686
> > > __slab_free 4038222
> > > dput 4030130
> > > path_put 4023387
> > > unroll_tree_refs 4019532
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > The most hit functions are listed first. Functions that are not
> > > hit are not listed.
> >
> > Why is this useful?
> >
> > Can we think of any scenarios where kernel developers would get
> > useful-to-them results from this? Results which couldn't be
> > obtained by other similarly-accessible means?
> >
> > <strains a bit>
> >
> > I guess that one could run workload A, look at
> > /debugfs/tracing/trace_stat/functions changes, then run worklaod B, then
> > look at its /debugfs/tracing/trace_stat/functions changes, then somehow
> > glean some information about the differences between the effects of the two
> > workloads on the kernel. Or something.
> >
> > But in this rather fake example and, I suspect, in many others,
> > the result will be less useful than using oprofile/etc in the
> > same fashion.
>
> I have to agree with Andrew here, my plan is to remove all the
> profiling stuff from kernel/trace in favour of perf counters.
i agree with that - but still it would be useful to also have the
ability to do in-kernel histograms and the likely/unlikely profiler
(which is using the same histogram code) is already using that
facility.
But instead of the single-purpose likely/unlikely and now function
histogram code, we should allow individual counters/events to be
linked up with an in-kernel histogram - or route it to user-space
via perfcounters.
> If you want exact function count profiling we could try to do
> something perf counter based, eg. stick a software counter in the
> mcount thingy.
while i agree in general - lets realize that function (and branch)
software events _are_ special due to their sheer mass. I dont think
it's feasible to route that much information to user-space - just to
collapse it into a histogram there. Even doing it in the kernel is
already straining the performance envelope quite a bit.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-21 14:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-21 4:37 [PATCH][GIT PULL] tracing: add function profiler Steven Rostedt
2009-03-21 11:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-21 11:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-21 14:12 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-21 15:50 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-03-21 16:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-21 15:46 ` Steven Rostedt
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