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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	shai@scalex86.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: don't compile vsmp_64 for 32bit
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:48:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090322124818.GA31466@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090302235120.GF27240@localdomain>


* Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:44:30AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> >* Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org> wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> True, but by how much? 212 bytes, out of 7285943 bytes which 
> >> is very very small percentage wise.
> >
> >How does this eliminate the validity of the patch?
> >
> 
> It costs 212 bytes to leave is_vsmp_box() to not just be a dummy 
> no-op. Having is_vsmp_box() detect if the hardware is indeed vSMP, 
> is meaningful even when CONFIG_VSMP is not turned on.  This is 
> because is_vsmp_box() is used to tell the kernel, that although 
> the cpus being used are supposed to have TSCs in sync, they are 
> not really in sync.  This is because you cannot ensure TSCs won't 
> drift between multiple boards being aggregated on vSMP systems. 
> Take the case of distro kernels.  Distro kernels typically do not 
> have CONFIG_X86_VSMP on.  Due to the large internode cacheline 
> setting, CONFIG_VSMP would not be on on the generic distro 
> installer kernels. If is_vsmp_box() is a no-op, the generic distro 
> installer kernels will assume TSCs to be synched, which is bad.  
> Hence, it will be nice if, for the cost of 212 bytes, vsmp64.o be 
> compiled either unconditionally, OR conditionally for 64bit 
> architectures only.  The question is, is 212 bytes out of 7285943 
> bytes too expensive for the generic kernels?  I hope not.

Sorry - got distracted and forgot about this thread. The TSC quirk 
indeed looks required for your systems - you dont have a reliable 
TSC due to virtualization, right?

Mind sending a patch (partial revert or so) against latest -tip that 
fixes that?

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-22 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-26  5:20 [PATCH] x86: don't compile vsmp_64 for 32bit Yinghai Lu
2009-02-26  5:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-26  6:48 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-02-26  8:39   ` Yinghai Lu
2009-02-26 11:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  0:17     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-02-28  9:44       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 23:51         ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-03  0:08           ` Yinghai Lu
2009-03-22 12:48           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-03-24  6:14             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-24  9:10               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-25 18:51                 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-25 22:16                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-25 22:36                     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-25 23:15                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-25 23:29                         ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-25 23:36                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-26  0:11                             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-25 23:58                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-26  0:31                             ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-26  9:11                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-26 18:17                                 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2009-03-26  7:57               ` [tip:x86/apic] Revert "x86: don't compile vsmp_64 for 32bit" Ravikiran G Thirumalai

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