From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Corey Ashford <cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: perf_counter: request for three more sample data options
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 18:32:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090403163248.GA21669@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1238745077.798.17.camel@twins>
* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 00:25 -0700, Corey Ashford wrote:
>
> > >> I am guessing the only difficult thing here would be obtaining the
> > >> current time from an IRQ, especially NMI handler. Is this difficult?
> > >
> > > Yes, quite :-) I'll have to see what we can do there -- we could do a
> > > best effort thing with little to no guarantees I think.
> > >
> >
> > Best effort would be fine, I think. I would assume that means
> > that 99.9% of the time, you'll get a correct timestamp, and the
> > rest are rubbish? Or would there be a way to detect when you're
> > not able to give a correct timestamp and in that case replace
> > the timestamp field with a special sentinel, like all hex f's?
>
> What I was thinking of was re-using some of the cpu_clock()
> infrastructure. That provides us with a jiffy based GTOD sample,
> cpu_clock() then uses TSC and a few filters to compute a current
> timestamp.
>
> I was thinking about cutting back those filters and thus trusting
> the TSC more -- which on x86 can do any random odd thing. So
> provided the TSC is not doing funny the results will be ok-ish.
>
> This does mean however, that its not possible to know when its
> gone bad.
Note that on latest mainline and on Nehalem CPUs that filter is
being cut back already. So there's an opt-in mechanism to trust
sched_clock() some more.
> Also, cpu_clock() can only provide monotonicity per-cpu, if a
> value read on one cpu is compared to a value read on another cpu,
> there can be a drift of at most 1-2 jiffies.
That should be a good start i think. If it causes any measurable
jitter then the performance monitoring community is probably going
to be the first one to notice! ;-) So there's good synergy IMO.
Ingo
prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-03 16:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-03 1:46 perf_counter: request for three more sample data options Corey Ashford
2009-04-03 7:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 7:25 ` Corey Ashford
2009-04-03 7:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 8:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2009-04-03 16:38 ` Robert Richter
2009-04-03 16:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 16:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-03 17:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 16:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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