From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing/filters: allow event filters to be set only when not tracing
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:27:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090407012746.GS6988@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0904062032160.24008@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:34:20PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm... Do the start_critical_timings() and stop_critical_timings()
> > functions have anything to do with ftrace()?
>
> Yep.
>
> > It does not look like I can just bury RCU-idle controls in these
> > functions, given that they are also invoked around call_console_drivers(),
> > but if all the idle loops are surrounded by stop_critical_timings() and
> > start_critical_timings(), that would ease location of all the idle
> > loops. ;-)
>
> They are for the irqsoff tracer. Several archs will disable interrupts and
> call an assembly "halt" type instruction that can be woken up by
> interrupts. But this skips the irqs off check, and we end up with irqsoff
> showing the idle loop with huge interrupts off latencies.
>
> I'm not sure they are included in all archs. They may be.
Not a chance! :-(
Looks like one can poke into cpu_idle() on all arches, but looks like
I cannot even assume that I can leverage CONFIG_NO_HZ due to the
rcu_needs_cpu() case. See below for my rough (and almost certainly
erroneous) notes thus far.
Thoughts?
Thanx, Paul
------------------------------------------------------------------------
o Have rcu_idle() call from spinning idle loops. This would
invoke rcu_qsctr_inc() and rcu_bh_qsctr_inc().
In this case, rcu_check_callbacks() need only check for
interrupt from user-level code.
o But this won't work for idle loops that yield to a hypervisor
without being in nohz node. For these, do rcu_idle_start()
before the yield and rcu_idle_end() after the yield. These
would manipulate a per-CPU variable.
In this case, rcu_check_callbacks() needs to check for:
a. interrupt from user-level code
b. unnested interrupt while under the influence of
rcu_idle_start().
o Put rcu_idle_start() after stop_critical_timings() and put
rcu_idle_end() before start_critical_timings() in each arch's
idle loop. But maybe pick less confusing names...
o powerpc: looks OK.
o s390: looks OK -- always dyntick.
o Super-H: Looks OK -- always dyntick.
o x86 32-bit: Looks OK. This is cpu_idle() in
arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c.
o x86 64-bit: Looks OK.
o ACPI: Looks OK.
o x86 APM: invokes system default idle, so OK if that is OK.
o x86: default_idle() in arch/x86/kernel/process.c
need rcu_idle_start() and rcu_idle_end(), or ensure
that caller always does the right thing???
o cpuidle_idle_call() in drivers/cpuidle/cpuidle.c
needs rcu_idle_start() and rcu_idle_end()???
o ARM: Looks OK -- always dyntick. See cpu_idle() in
arch/arm/kernel/process.c.
o Blackfin: Looks OK -- always dyntick. see cpu_idle() in
arch/blackfin/kernel/process.c.
o Cris: ??? cpu_idle() in arch/cris/kernel/process.c
has strange comment:
* Mark this as an RCU critical section so that
* synchronize_kernel() in the unload path waits
* for our completion.
Ain't gonna happen...
But looks like we need an rcu_start_idle() and an
rcu_stop_idle() around the call to idle().
o H8300: cpu_idle() in arch/h8300/kernel/process.c.
Need an rcu_start_idle() and an rcu_stop_idle() around
the call to idle(). Hopefully not messing too much with
the exit latency.
o IA64: cpu_idle() in arch/ia64/kernel/process.c.
Need an rcu_start_idle() and an rcu_stop_idle() around
the call to idle(). Not sure how far around...
o M68k: cpu_idle() in arch/m68k/kernel/process.c.
Need an rcu_start_idle() and an rcu_stop_idle() around
the call to idle(). Hopefully not messing too much with
the exit latency.
o M68Knommu: Ditto, but arch/m68knommu/kernel/process.c.
o UM: Looks OK -- always nohz.
o M32r: cpu_idle() in arch/m32r/kernel/process.c.
Need an rcu_start_idle() and an rcu_stop_idle() around
the call to idle(). Hopefully not messing too much with
the exit latency.
o MN10300: cpu_idle() in arch/mn10300/kernel/process.c.
Need an rcu_start_idle() and an rcu_stop_idle() around
the call to idle(). Hopefully not messing too much with
the exit latency.
@@@ Need to recheck the "nohz OK" assumption -- might have disabled it.
Maybe make rcu_idle_start() and rcu_idle_stop() no-ops in case
of CONFIG_NO_HZ -- but still need rcu_needs_cpu() case to work.
So follow up on cpu_idle() cases.
o Idle loops (for posterity's sake):
o Generic: default_idle() gets rcu_idle().
o Power: All invoked from cpu_idle(), which already contains
stop_critical_timings() and start_critical_timings().
o 44x: ppc44x_idle() absolutely unclear.
o powermac: power4_idle() is assembly code???
Appears to need a call to rcu_idle() in
the loop headed by label 1b:.
o maple: same as powermac.
o pseries: pSeries_setup_arch()
o pseries_shared_idle_sleep()
needs rcu_idle_start() and
rcu_idle_end() surrounding
the cede_processor() call.
o pseries_dedicated_idle_sleep()
needs rcu_idle_start() and
rcu_idle_end() surrounding
the cede_processor() call.
Might also need rcu_idle() in
the "while" loop...
o iseries: iSeries_setup_arch()
o iseries_shared_idle() seems to need
rcu_idle_start() and rcu_idle_end()
surrounding yield_shared_processor()
call.
o iseries_dedicated_idle() needs no
action, as it forces nohz. ;-)
o pasemi: modes[] array in platforms/pasemi/idle.c
o idle_spin() assembly function, need
call to rcu_idle() in loop headed by
label 1:.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-07 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-30 5:22 [PATCH] tracing/filters: allow event filters to be set only when not tracing Tom Zanussi
2009-04-01 12:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-02 6:22 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-04-03 13:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 14:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-04 7:32 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-04-04 15:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-04 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-05 7:34 ` Tom Zanussi
2009-04-05 17:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-06 15:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-06 16:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-06 19:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-06 19:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-06 19:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-06 20:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-06 23:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-07 0:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-07 1:27 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-04-03 16:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-03 16:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-03 16:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-03 18:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
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