From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@linux.intel.com, rjw@sisk.pl,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS calls -- infrastructure
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:33:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090412163356.GA2392@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904120754240.4583@localhost.localdomain>
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> Sure, go ahead and wrap them in some kind of "save and restore all
> registers" wrapping, but nothing fancier than that. It would just
> be overkill, and likely to break more than it fixes.
Yeah. I only brought up the virtualization thing as a hypothetical:
"if" corrupting the main OS ever became a widespread problem. Then i
made the argument that this is unlikely to happen, because Windows
will be affected by it just as much. (while register state
corruptions might go unnoticed much more easily, just via the random
call-environment clobbering of registers by Windows itself.)
The only case where i could see virtualization to be useful is the
low memory RAM corruption pattern that some people have observed.
The problem with it, it happens on s2ram transitions, and that is
driven by SMM mainly - which is a hypervisor sitting on top of all
the other would-be-hypervisors and thus not virtualizable.
Which leaves us without a single practical case. So it's not going
to happen.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-12 16:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-09 23:06 [PATCH 0/6] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:12 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS calls -- infrastructure H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 8:04 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 10:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10 10:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-10 11:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-11 16:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 5:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-12 14:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-12 14:39 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 14:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-12 16:33 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-12 18:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13 4:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-13 4:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-13 16:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13 16:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-13 17:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13 18:34 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-04-13 19:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-14 0:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 4:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-14 9:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-14 15:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-13 6:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 17:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 17:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the core boot code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the APM code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the EDD code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the MCA code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-09 23:13 ` [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts in the video code H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-10 8:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-10 18:05 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS interrupts Rafael J. Wysocki
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