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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rusty@rustcorp.com.au, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, davej@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Fix quilt merge error in acpi-cpufreq.c
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:48:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090415224800.GA22425@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090415.142326.97287514.davem@davemloft.net>


* David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:

> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:43:02 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> > And if it _is_ obvious, then the mechanical "Impact:" thing is pointless.
> > 
> > In other words - in neither case does it actually help anything at all. 
> > It's only distracting noise.
> 
> FWIW I find the Impact: blurbs highly annoying too.  Just freakin' 
> say what the damn patch does in the commit message.

Just curious: have you tried to use them over a couple of days, just 
to check whether your first read-only impression is correct, that 
they are just annoying blurbs with no other effects? (you might have 
- I dont know.)

> If a person can't be bothered to skim the commit message text, 
> this Impact: tag only gives them a false sense of understanding 
> what the change does.

So do you consider it wrong to summarize impact? Does this argument 
extend to other summaries as well, such as the title itself? Or is 
your argument that there should be only a single kind of summary in 
a commit - the title itself?

Also, would it be wrong for people to be able to skim commit logs 
only for 'interesting looking' commits, by using impact tags? Should 
they be 'punished' by us obfuscating away summaries intentionally?

Also, do you think hpa was not telling the truth when he said that 
it is much faster for him to review patches that have an impact 
line? Do you think i am not telling the truth for reporting the same 
experience? Isnt speed and effiency of review something we should be 
happy to improve?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-15 22:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200904140159.n3E1x1K1014705@hera.kernel.org>
2009-04-14  2:05 ` Fix quilt merge error in acpi-cpufreq.c Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15  5:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 10:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-15 15:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 16:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 16:46           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 17:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 17:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 18:47             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-15 19:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 20:07                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 20:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 21:03                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 21:15                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 22:40                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 23:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  0:08                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  0:23                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  0:38                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  0:50                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  4:33                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-16  7:14                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 15:24                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-15 23:49                       ` David Miller
2009-04-16 11:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-15 21:17                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 23:04                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 21:23                 ` David Miller
2009-04-15 22:48                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-15 23:11                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  0:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  1:03                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  1:46                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  2:22                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  7:23                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  3:55                             ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16  7:44                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 15:41                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-16 13:04                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-16  2:00               ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16  2:22                 ` Paul Gortmaker
2009-04-16  2:34                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-16  3:10                 ` Ray Lee
2009-04-16  7:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 11:57                   ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16 13:55                 ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-20  8:14                   ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-20 10:38                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22  4:18                       ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-21 19:37                     ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-22  1:58                       ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16  1:27         ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-16  2:31           ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-16  8:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-15 15:05     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-15 15:22       ` Ali Gholami Rudi
2009-04-15 16:41       ` Ingo Molnar
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     [not found]                 ` <crqVM-4UC-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2009-04-16  5:46                   ` Niel Lambrechts

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