From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rework/fix is_single_threaded()
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:36:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090416133658.GA6532@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14878.1239876272@redhat.com>
On 04/16, David Howells wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > - Fix the comment, is_single_threaded(p) actually means that nobody shares
> > ->mm with p.
> >
> > I think this helper should be renamed,
>
> What we want to know when we ask this function is whether or not a process is
> single-threaded, hence the name. The fact that because:
>
> CLONE_THREAD => CLONE_SIGHAND => CLONE_VM
>
> we can work this out purely by checking that there aren't any processes that
> share VM space with us is immaterial.
Confused... I already asked this in http://marc.info/?t=123853355800001
"what is_single_threaded() does?" and perhaps I misunderstood you.
So, once again, what it should do? If we only care about CLONE_THREAD (implies
CLONE_VM), then we can just do
bool is_single_threaded(struct task_struct *p)
{
return atomic_read(&p->signal->live) == 1;
}
But, if it should check p doesn't share VM space (this is what it does
with or without the patch), then we have to scan all processes.
> > and it should not have arguments. With or without this patch it must not be
> > used unless p == current, otherwise we can't safely use p->signal or p->mm.
>
> Well, I can live with that, but you need to check with the SELinux people too.
> Whilst they do currently limit the selinux_setprocattr() to current only, they
> still hand the task pointer that function is given around.
Yes, I see. But (apart from "not safe" above), from the security pov it doesn't
make sense to call is_single_threaded(p) unless p == current ? The task can
fork right after the check.
> > - Use down_write(mm->mmap_sem) + rcu_read_lock() instead of tasklist_lock
> > to iterate over the process list. If there is another CLONE_VM process
> > it can't pass exit_mm() which takes the same mm->mmap_sem. We can miss
> > a freshly forked CLONE_VM task, but this doesn't matter because we must
> > see its parent and return false.
>
> Hmmm... I'd quite like to avoid using down_write() if possible.
Cough. And I'd like to avoid taking tasklist_lock as much as possible ;)
tasklist is the global and overused lock. Not good to take it to scan the
process list.
> Why do we
> need to do this? Is it just to stop processes that might cease using mm from
> doing so until we've finished?
Suppose we have a process P which shares ->mm with "task" (the argument), so
we should return "false".
P does clone(CLONE_VM) and exits. rcu_read_lock() can't guarantee we will
see the new task with the same ->mm. And without ->mmap_sem P can call
exit_mm() and set P->mm = NULL.
Hmm. But we can just add a barrier?
bool is_single_threaded(struct task_struct *task)
{
struct mm_struct *mm = task->mm;
struct task_struct *p, *t;
bool ret;
if (atomic_read(&task->signal->live) != 1)
return false;
if (atomic_read(&mm->mm_users) == 1)
return true;
ret = false;
rcu_read_lock();
for_each_process(p) {
if (unlikely(p->flags & PF_KTHREAD))
continue;
if (unlikely(p == task->group_leader))
continue;
t = p;
do {
if (unlikely(t->mm == mm))
goto found;
if (likely(t->mm))
break;
/* !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
t->mm == NULL. Perhaps it had the same ->mm ?
If t has forked CLONE_VM task and called exit_mm(),
make sure next_thread() or for_each_process()->next_task()
will see it.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*/
smp_rmb();
} while_each_thread(p, t);
}
ret = true;
found:
rcu_read_unlock();
return ret;
}
What do you think?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-16 13:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-13 21:45 [PATCH] rework/fix is_single_threaded() Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-16 13:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-16 10:04 ` David Howells
2009-04-16 13:36 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-04-16 14:36 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-04-16 14:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-18 19:07 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-18 19:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-22 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-22 17:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-22 21:04 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-22 19:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-07-09 13:01 ` David Howells
2009-07-09 21:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
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