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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@texware.it>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:13:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090417001345.GH26366@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090417000142.GF21405@elte.hu>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 02:01:42AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > remount is potentially nastier, but then it *is* nasty.  Again, 
> > it's only per-fs stuff, so the obvious first step is taking BKL 
> > down into the instances. It doesn't protect anything in VFS; all 
> > uses are fs internal, so that'll take review of individual 
> > filesystems.
> > 
> > NOTE: do not assume that code in fs/foo/* is correct; "it doesn't 
> > take BKL elsewhere" does _not_ mean that we don't have races.  
> > IOW, the same review ought to look for such beasts and deal with 
> > them.  Mere "oh, no BKL anywhere in that fs" is not enough to 
> > discard the ->remount_fs() instance.
> 
> what kind of races do you mean? Timing sensitive ones that are there 
> just are not easy to trigger with the BKL held?
> 
> Or actual locking interaction between that body of BKL code and all 
> other BKL using code?

Old foo_read_super/foo_write_super/foo_put_super/foo_remount_fs for the
same foo.  IOW, per-driver (and not per-fs - that's taken care of) data
structures.  Arbitrary weird ones.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-17  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16 14:27 [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex Alessio Igor Bogani
2009-04-16 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 16:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 17:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 17:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:05       ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 23:56   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17  0:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:13       ` Al Viro [this message]
2009-04-17  0:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:38           ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 16:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 17:31                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-17 18:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 18:44                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-22 17:28                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-17 18:08                   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 18:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:41                 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 17:34               ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Al Viro

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