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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Scheduler regression: Too frequent timer interrupts(?)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:49:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090417164918.GK8253@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1239985426.23397.4757.camel@laptop>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> > > Is the overhead 1%? 2%? 0.5%? And how did it change from 
> > > 2.6.22 onwards? Did it go up by 0.1%, from 1% to 1.1%? Or did 
> > > the average go down by 0.05%, while increasing the spread of 
> > > events (thus fooling your cutoff)?
> > 
> > As you see in the diagrams provided there is a 4 fold increase 
> > in the number of interrupts >1usecs when going from 2.6.22 to 
> > 2.6.23. How would you measure the overhead? Time spent in the 
> > OS? Disturbance of the caches by the OS that cause the 
> > application to have to refetch data from Ram?
> 
> You could for example run an NMI profiler at 10000 Hz and collect 
> samples. Or use PMU hardware to collect numbers

it's even simpler than that: use a user-space loop and an alert() 
based signal-handler triggered measurement to count the number of 
loops user-space can execute, per second.

Such measurements can very easily be made much more precise than 
0.1%, and in a tight loop there's basically no caching issues - it 
measures pure 'cycles left for user-space' performance.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-17 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16 19:53 Scheduler regression: Too frequent timer interrupts(?) Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17  7:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 13:42   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 14:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 14:29       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 14:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 15:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 15:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-23  4:42               ` Pavel Machek
2009-04-28 21:02                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-28 21:23                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-28 21:21                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 15:35             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 15:55               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 16:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 16:33                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 16:49                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-17 17:19                     ` Chris Friesen
2009-04-17 17:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 18:11                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 18:20                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 18:58                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 20:34                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-17 20:53                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 23:24                           ` Chris Friesen
2009-04-18  7:35                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-18  7:59                             ` Andi Kleen

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