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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@texware.it>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:34:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090417173422.GJ26366@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090417165643.GL8253@elte.hu>

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 06:56:43PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> Stupid question regarding c): wouldnt such data structures go via 
> the VFS - which you said was free of BKL constraints? Or are there 
> interconnected private data structures between certain types of 
> closely related filesystems that the VFS does not know about? (and 
> hence might have BKL assumptions)

Shared between different instances of this fs type.  E.g. if FAT had
its hashtable not per-superblock (as it is now) but system-wide (as it
used to be prior to [PATCH] FAT: the inode hash from per module to per sb),
it would be suspicious.  In this particular case, it was OK from the
very beginning (I'd used a system-wide spinlock to protect it when it
had been introduced and per-superblock splitup made that spinlock per-sb
along with the hash table).

IOW, I wouldn't particulary worry about interactions between different
fs _types_ - it's interactions between the different fs _instances_
within the same driver that are likely sources of PITA.

ObOtherQuestion: no, I don't think that bdev open and bdev ioctls situation
is related to this group of BKL users.  sb_set_blocksize() might, in principle,
want a memory barrier of some kind, but that's it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-17 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16 14:27 [PATCH -tip] remove the BKL: Replace BKL in mount/umount syscalls with a mutex Alessio Igor Bogani
2009-04-16 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 16:49   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 17:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-16 17:13       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:05       ` Al Viro
2009-04-16 16:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:58   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 23:56   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17  0:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:13       ` Al Viro
2009-04-17  0:27         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17  0:38           ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 16:56             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-17 17:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 17:31                   ` Jonathan Corbet
2009-04-17 18:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-17 18:44                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2009-04-22 17:28                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-04-17 18:08                   ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 18:34                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-17 17:41                 ` Al Viro
2009-04-17 17:34               ` Al Viro [this message]
2009-04-16 23:49 ` Al Viro

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