From: Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
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Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] io-throttle documentation
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:36:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090421213604.GD5573@linux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090421182958.GF22619@redhat.com>
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 02:29:58PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:23:05AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:37:03AM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 09:08:46PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:05:12AM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [..]
> > > > > > > > Are we not already controlling submission of request (at crude level).
> > > > > > > > If application is doing writeout at high rate, then it hits vm_dirty_ratio
> > > > > > > > hits and this application is forced to do write out and hence it is slowed
> > > > > > > > down and is not allowed to submit writes at high rate.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just that it is not a very fair scheme right now as during right out
> > > > > > > > a high prio/high weight cgroup application can start writing out some
> > > > > > > > other cgroups' pages.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > For this we probably need to have some combination of solutions like
> > > > > > > > per cgroup upper limit on dirty pages. Secondly probably if an application
> > > > > > > > is slowed down because of hitting vm_drity_ratio, it should try to
> > > > > > > > write out the inode it is dirtying first instead of picking any random
> > > > > > > > inode and associated pages. This will ensure that a high weight
> > > > > > > > application can quickly get through the write outs and see higher
> > > > > > > > throughput from the disk.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the first, I submitted a patchset some months ago to provide this
> > > > > > > feature in the memory controller:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/containers/2008-September/013140.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We focused on the best interface to use for setting the dirty pages
> > > > > > > limit, but we didn't finalize it. I can rework on that and repost an
> > > > > > > updated version. Now that we have the dirty_ratio/dirty_bytes to set the
> > > > > > > global limit I think we can use the same interface and the same semantic
> > > > > > > within the cgroup fs, something like:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > memory.dirty_ratio
> > > > > > > memory.dirty_bytes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For the second point something like this should be enough to force tasks
> > > > > > > to write out only the inode they're actually dirtying when they hit the
> > > > > > > vm_dirty_ratio limit. But it should be tested carefully and may cause
> > > > > > > heavy performance regressions.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > mm/page-writeback.c | 2 +-
> > > > > > > 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/mm/page-writeback.c b/mm/page-writeback.c
> > > > > > > index 2630937..1e07c9d 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/mm/page-writeback.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/mm/page-writeback.c
> > > > > > > @@ -543,7 +543,7 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct address_space *mapping)
> > > > > > > * been flushed to permanent storage.
> > > > > > > */
> > > > > > > if (bdi_nr_reclaimable) {
> > > > > > > - writeback_inodes(&wbc);
> > > > > > > + sync_inode(mapping->host, &wbc);
> > > > > > > pages_written += write_chunk - wbc.nr_to_write;
> > > > > > > get_dirty_limits(&background_thresh, &dirty_thresh,
> > > > > > > &bdi_thresh, bdi);
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This patch seems to be helping me a bit in getting more service
> > > > > > differentiation between two writer dd of different weights. But strangely
> > > > > > it is helping only for ext3 and not ext4. Debugging is on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you explicitly mounting ext3 with data=ordered?
> > > >
> > > > Yes. Still using 29-rc8 and data=ordered was the default then.
> > > >
> > > > I got two partitions on same disk and created one ext3 filesystem on each
> > > > partition (just to take journaling intereference out of two dd threads
> > > > for the time being).
> > > >
> > > > Two dd threads doing writes to each partition.
> > >
> > > ...and if you're using data=writeback with ext4 sync_inode() should sync
> > > the metadata only. If this is the case, could you check data=ordered
> > > also for ext4?
> >
> > No, even data=ordered mode with ext4 is also not helping. It has to be
> > something else.
> >
>
> Ok, with data=ordered mode with ext4, now I can get significant service
> differentiation between two dd processes. I had to tweak cfq a bit.
>
> - Instead of 40ms slice for async queue, do 20ms at a time (tunable).
> - change cfq quantum to 1 from 4 to not dispatch a bunch of requests at
> one go.
>
> Above changes help a bit in making sure two continuously backlogged queues
> at IO scheduler so that IO scheduler can offer more disk time to higher
> weight process.
Good, also testing the WB_SYNC_ALL would be interesting I think.
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-21 21:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-14 20:21 [PATCH 0/9] cgroup: io-throttle controller (v13) Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 1/9] io-throttle documentation Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 1:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 1:56 ` Li Zefan
2009-04-17 10:25 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 10:41 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 11:35 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-04-20 9:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-20 15:00 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-27 10:45 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-27 12:15 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-27 21:56 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 7:34 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-17 7:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 9:29 ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-04-17 9:55 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 17:39 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-17 23:12 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-19 15:47 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-20 21:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-20 22:05 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 1:08 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 8:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 14:23 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 18:29 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-21 21:36 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2009-04-21 21:28 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-19 13:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 2/9] res_counter: introduce ratelimiting attributes Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 2:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-15 9:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 12:38 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-15 13:23 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 23:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-16 10:42 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-16 12:00 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 0:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 9:44 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-15 13:07 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-16 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 0:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 0:44 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 1:44 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 4:15 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 7:48 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 1:50 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-17 9:40 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 1:49 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2009-04-17 2:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 7:22 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 8:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 8:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 8:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17 11:27 ` Block I/O tracking (was Re: [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller) Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2009-04-17 22:09 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 7:32 ` [PATCH 3/9] bio-cgroup controller Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-17 10:22 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-20 11:35 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-20 14:56 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 11:39 ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-04-21 15:31 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 4/9] support checking of cgroup subsystem dependencies Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 5/9] io-throttle controller infrastructure Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 6/9] kiothrottled: throttle buffered (writeback) IO Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 7/9] io-throttle instrumentation Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 8/9] export per-task io-throttle statistics to userspace Andrea Righi
2009-04-14 20:21 ` [PATCH 9/9] ext3: do not throttle metadata and journal IO Andrea Righi
2009-04-17 12:38 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-17 12:50 ` Jens Axboe
2009-04-17 14:39 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 0:18 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 8:30 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 14:06 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 14:31 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-21 16:35 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-21 17:46 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 18:14 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-21 19:14 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-21 20:49 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-22 0:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-22 1:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-22 10:22 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-23 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 1:22 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 2:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 4:35 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 4:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-23 5:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-23 9:44 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-23 12:17 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 12:27 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-23 21:13 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-24 0:26 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-24 5:14 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-23 10:03 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-22 3:30 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-24 15:10 ` Balbir Singh
2009-04-16 22:24 ` [PATCH 0/9] cgroup: io-throttle controller (v13) Andrew Morton
2009-04-17 9:37 ` Andrea Righi
2009-04-30 13:20 ` Alan D. Brunelle
2009-05-01 11:11 ` Andrea Righi
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