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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Zhaolei <zhaolei@cn.fujitsu.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>,
	Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@google.com>,
	Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@tuxdriver.com>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@linux360.ro>,
	Pekka@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:26:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090422072605.GC14687@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0904220215530.9714@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:24:17AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Andi Kleen wrote:
> 
> > > I think it was Ingo that let out the idea, and I'm starting to like it.
> > > 
> > > Perhaps we should fork off gcc and ship Linux with its own compiler. This 
> > > way we can optimize it for the kernel and not worry about any userland 
> > > optimizations.
> > > 
> > > I would like to do something like:
> > > 
> > > 	if (unlikely(err)) {
> > > 		__section__(".error_sect") {
> > 
> > 
> > gcc already supports that, you don't need to fork anything. It's called
> > hot/cold partitioning. Basically it splits functions into hot and cold
> > and unlikely parts and all the cold/unlikely parts go into a separate 
> > sections.
> > 
> > I think it's normally not enabled by default on x86 though, probably because
> > it doesn't help too much.
> > 
> > By default (unless you specify -fno-reorder-blocks) it does the same
> > without sections, just moving unlikely code out of line.
> 
> The unlikely code does not always get moved out that far. It still sits 
> inside a function, and looking at the tracepoint code it did not move it 
> far enough.

That's because you didn't enable the hot/cold partioning as I wrote.
These are separate options. By default it doesn't use partitions on x86,
but it can.

> If gcc can indeed move "unlikely" code completely out of the fast path, 
> and put it into its own sections, then I think we should go through the 
> kernel and start removing all "likely" and "unlikely"s that are not 99% 
> accurate. Then we can enable the separate section cold paths and perhaps 
> see a performance benefit.

iirc there wasn't much for using separate partitions with the usual
user space benchmarks (SpecCPU etc.) on x86. It helped a bit on POWER
apparently though.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-22  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-14 17:23 [PATCH 0/8] [GIT PULL] TRACE_EVENT for modules Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 1/8] tracing: consolidate trace and trace_event headers Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:51   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-14 22:04     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 23:44   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-15  1:45     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-15 16:07       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16  2:34         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-16  2:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 23:44             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17  0:03               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17  0:13                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17  0:18                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17  0:28                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-17  0:43                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17  3:05                         ` [PATCH] tracepoints : let subsystem nop-out the tracepoints at build time Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-20  7:12               ` [PATCH 2/8] tracing: create automated trace defines Andi Kleen
2009-04-21 15:51                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-21 17:18                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-21 17:21                     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 17:43                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-21 20:28                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-21 21:17                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 21:23                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-21 21:33                             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-22  5:47                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-22  6:07                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-22  6:24                             ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-22  7:26                               ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2009-04-15  7:04   ` Zhaolei
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] tracing: make trace_seq operations available for core kernel Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 19:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-15  2:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 4/8] tracing/events: move declarations from trace directory to core include Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 5/8] tracing/events: move the ftrace event tracing code to core Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 19:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-15  2:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-15  3:40       ` Jiaying Zhang
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 6/8] tracing/events: convert event call sites to use a link list Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 7/8] tracing/events: add export symbols for trace events in modules Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 17:23 ` [PATCH 8/8] tracing/events: add support for modules to TRACE_EVENT Steven Rostedt
2009-04-15  3:22   ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-14 18:15 ` [PATCH 0/8] [GIT PULL] TRACE_EVENT for modules Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 18:33   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 18:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 21:04 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-14 21:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:59     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 21:29   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2009-04-14 22:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 16:53     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-04-14 21:48   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-14 21:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-14 22:33       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-15  8:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  2:29           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-16 16:52   ` Christoph Hellwig

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