From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
torvalds@osdl.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
serue@us.ibm.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] It may not be assumed that wake_up(), finish_wait() and co. imply a memory barrier
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:55:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090423165546.GA7117@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21209.1240504344@redhat.com>
On 04/23, David Howells wrote:
>
> + complete();
> + try_to_wake_up();
> + wake_up();
> + wake_up_all();
> + wake_up_bit();
> + wake_up_interruptible();
> + wake_up_interruptible_all();
> + wake_up_interruptible_nr();
> + wake_up_interruptible_poll();
> + wake_up_interruptible_sync();
> + wake_up_interruptible_sync_poll();
> + wake_up_locked();
> + wake_up_locked_poll();
> + wake_up_nr();
> + wake_up_poll();
> +
> +After waking, and assuming it doesn't take a matching lock, the sleeper may
> +need to interpolate a read or full memory barrier before accessing that state
> +as finish_wait() does not imply a barrier either, and schedule() only implies a
> +barrier on entry.
Well. I am starting to suspect I missed something, but I disagree. Or I just
(this is very possible) misunderstand the above.
finish_wait() doesn't imply a barrier, but why this matters?
And if we don't use prepare_to_wait() and just do
for (;;) {
set_current_state(WHATEVER);
if (!CONDITION)
schedule();
break;
}
we do have mb(), but
> + *
> + * It should not be assumed that this function implies any sort of memory
> + * barrier.
> */
> static int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int sync)
unless try_to_wake_up() has a barrier semantics too, this code
CONDITION = 1;
wake_up_process(waiter);
is not right, and that mb above can't help.
Could you please give the code example which shows we need a barrier
after finish_wait() ?
I am just trying to understand what I missed.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-23 17:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-13 18:17 [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:40 ` David Howells
2009-04-13 21:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 22:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 23:27 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-16 9:10 ` David Howells
2009-04-16 14:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 13:37 ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full memory barrier David Howells
2009-04-22 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 15:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 15:12 ` David Howells
2009-04-22 15:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 16:23 ` David Howells
2009-04-22 17:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:32 ` [PATCH] It may not be assumed that wake_up(), finish_wait() and co. imply a " David Howells
2009-04-23 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-04-24 11:46 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 15:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:48 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 10:18 ` David Howells
2009-04-28 13:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 17:53 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 20:35 ` David Howells
2009-04-23 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 21:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:36 ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full " Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 20:37 ` David Howells
2009-04-23 16:00 ` [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait David Howells
2009-04-23 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:35 ` David Howells
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