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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Anders Kaseorg <andersk@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
	Tim Abbott <tabbott@MIT.EDU>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Jeffrey B Arnold <jbarnold@MIT.EDU>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ftrace: use module notifier for function tracer
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:57:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090423195754.GA24963@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0904221901190.7725@vinegar-pot.mit.edu>

* Anders Kaseorg (andersk@MIT.EDU) wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Apr 2009, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> > Could you also add "use text_poke() on x86" to your plan? :-)
> 
> That should be possible now that it is usable inside stop_machine().  It 
> would be nicer to have an API that isn’t x86-specific, though.
> 
> Another issue is that Ksplice supports patching rodata as well as text, 
> and text_poke() does not support changes bigger than PAGE_SIZE.  Though 
> perhaps text_poke() is not the right function for rodata patches anyway.
> 
> > Hmm, I can't agree that we allow module to modify kernel text...
> > Is that possible to separate kernel-text swapping routine from Ksplice
> > module? In that case, we don't need to export text_mutex.
> 
> No, it’s not enough for Ksplice to lock the kernel text only while 
> actively swapping it.  We also need to prevent changes to the kernel text 
> while Ksplice is doing run-pre matching to ensure safety.  This means that 
> Ksplice wants to hold text_mutex for essentially the entire time it’s 
> running.
> 

how about a kernel Ksplice API which lets your patch modules get
their handlers executed under the right execution context ? E.g. :

int do_ksplice(void (*pre_hook)(struct blah *context),
	void (*code_update_hook)(struct blah *context),
	void (*post_hook)(struct blah *context));

Which returns either 0 or -ESOMETHING. It would take care of locking and
everything within core kernel code. The "patch" modules would simply
provide the functions that does the code updates, assuming that the
do_ksplice function makes sure to provide correct locking semantics.
This way, the kernel code-base would contain the tricky locking bits.
It seems much better than exporting the text_mutex to modules.

Mathieu



> Anders
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-23 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-16  2:18 [PATCH 0/5] [GIT PULL] updates for tip Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16  2:18 ` [PATCH 1/5] ftrace: use module notifier for function tracer Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 15:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-16 15:53     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17 11:44   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-19 11:25   ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-20 13:57     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21  5:15       ` Rusty Russell
2009-04-21 13:13         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 13:58           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 17:51     ` Tim Abbott
2009-04-21 18:17       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-21 18:47         ` Tim Abbott
2009-04-22  9:16       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 22:20         ` Tim Abbott
2009-04-22 22:57           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-23 19:40             ` Anders Kaseorg
2009-04-23 19:57               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-04-23 22:31                 ` Tim Abbott
2009-04-24  3:11                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-23 20:06               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-04-16  2:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: add startup tests for events Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16  8:39   ` [PATCH] tracing: add #include <linux/delay.h> to fix build failure in test_work() Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 14:08     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17  0:30       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 15:41   ` [PATCH 2/5] tracing/events: add startup tests for events Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-16 15:51     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 16:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-16  2:18 ` [PATCH 3/5] tracing/events: add rcu locking around trace event prints Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17 14:08   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17 15:20     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17 15:42       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17 23:53         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17 16:18     ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-17 16:32       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-17 16:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-07  2:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-05-07 11:32     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-07 13:10       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16  2:18 ` [PATCH 4/5] tracing/events/ring-buffer: expose format of ring buffer headers to users Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16  2:18 ` [PATCH 5/5] tracing: add saved_cmdlines file to show cached task comms Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 15:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-16 15:58     ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 16:05       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-04-16  9:51 ` [PATCH 0/5] [GIT PULL] updates for tip Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16  9:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 13:52   ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-16 16:12     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2009-04-17  0:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-16 16:30       ` Ingo Molnar

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