From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
torvalds@osdl.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
serue@us.ibm.com, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] It may not be assumed that wake_up(), finish_wait() and co. imply a memory barrier
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:08:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090424170830.GA13026@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090424150809.GA6754@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 04/24, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> One question, assuming that this documentation intends to guide the
> reader on where to put the locking and/or memory-barrier primitives...
>
> Suppose we have the following sequence of events:
>
> 1. The waiter does "set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);".
> This implies a full memory barrier.
>
> 2. The awakener updates some shared state.
>
> 3. The awakener does "event_indicated = 1;".
>
> 4. The waiter does "if (event_indicated)", and, finding that
> the event has in fact been indicated, does "break".
>
> 5. The waiter accesses the shared state set in #2 above.
>
> 6. Some time later, the awakener does "wake_up(&event_wait_queue);"
> This does not awaken anyone, so no memory barrier.
>
> Because there is no memory barrier between #2 and #3, reordering by
> either the compiler or the CPU might cause the awakener to update the
> event_indicated flag in #3 -before- completing its update of shared
> state in #2. Less likely (but still possible) optimizations might
> cause the waiter to access the shared state in #5 before checking
> the event_indicated flag in #4.
Do you mean something like
awakener:
DATA = value;
DATA_IS_READY = true;
wake_up(wq);
waiter:
set_current_state(UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
if (DATA_IS_READY)
do_something(DATA);
?
Imho, the code above is just buggy and should be ignored by documentation ;)
Or do I miss your point?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-24 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-13 18:17 [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 19:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 19:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:40 ` David Howells
2009-04-13 21:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-04-13 22:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-15 23:27 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-16 9:10 ` David Howells
2009-04-16 14:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 13:37 ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full memory barrier David Howells
2009-04-22 13:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 14:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 14:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 15:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-22 15:12 ` David Howells
2009-04-22 15:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-22 16:23 ` David Howells
2009-04-22 17:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:32 ` [PATCH] It may not be assumed that wake_up(), finish_wait() and co. imply a " David Howells
2009-04-23 16:55 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 11:46 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 15:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:08 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-04-24 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:48 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-28 10:18 ` David Howells
2009-04-28 13:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-24 17:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-24 17:53 ` David Howells
2009-04-24 18:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 17:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 20:35 ` David Howells
2009-04-23 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-23 21:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-23 16:36 ` [PATCH] Document that wake_up(), complete() and co. imply a full " Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-23 20:37 ` David Howells
2009-04-23 16:00 ` [PATCH] slow_work_thread() should do the exclusive wait David Howells
2009-04-23 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-04-13 21:35 ` David Howells
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