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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, borislav.petkov@amd.com,
	greg@kroah.com, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	dougthompson@xmission.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/21] amd64_edac: add f10-and-later methods-p3
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:42:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090429124228.8677d4eb.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090429192326.GA14652@elte.hu>

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:23:26 +0200
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:

> > > > +		if (CSFound >= 0) {
> > > > +			*node_id = NodeID;
> > > > +			*channel_select = ChannelSelect;
> > > > +		}
> > > > +	}
> > > > +
> > > > +	return CSFound;
> > > > +}
> > > 
> > > this function is probably too large, and also it uses some weird 
> > > hungarian notation coding style. Please dont do that! It's 
> > > completely unacceptable.
> > 
> > These identifers (or at least, DctSelBaseOffsetLong, which is the 
> > only one I googled for) come straight out of the AMD "BIOS and 
> > Kernel Developer's Guide".
> > 
> > Sucky though they are, there's value in making the kernel code 
> > match up with the documentation.
> 
> I'm generally resisting patches that hungarinize arch/x86/ (and heck 
> there's been many attempts ...) but there's some conflicting advice 
> here. I've Cc:-ed Linus, maybe he has an opinion about this.
> 
> My gut reaction would be 'hell no'. There's other, structural 
> problems with this code too, and doing some saner naming would 
> mostly be a sed job and would take minimal amount of time. The 
> naming can still be intuitive. The symbols from the documentation 
> can perhaps be mentioned in a couple of comments to establish a 
> mapping.

I think I disagree.  For those identifiers which map 1:1 with the
manufacturer's document, the ugliness involved in exactly copying the
manufacturer's chosen identifiers is outweighed by the benefit of
exactly copying the manufacturer's chosen identifiers.

Of course, we don't have to use StinkyIdentifiers anywhere else.  And
the nice thing about that is that when one reads the code and comes
across a StinkyIdentifier, one immeditely knows that it's an
AMD-provided thing rather than a Linux-provided thing.

Zillions of StinkyIdentifiers get merged via this logic.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-29 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-29 16:54 [RFC PATCH 00/21 v2] amd64_edac: EDAC module for AMD64 Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86: add methods for writing of an MSR on several CPUs Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 17:39   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-04 16:46     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 17:25       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-04 17:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 20:51           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 02/21] amd64_edac: add PCI config register defines Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 20:54   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 03/21] amd64_edac: add driver structs Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 20:38   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 04/21] amd64_edac: add memory scrubber interface Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:02   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 05/21] amd64_edac: add sys addr to memory controller mapping helpers Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:08   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 06/21] amd64_edac: add functionality to compute the DRAM hole Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:22   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 07/21] amd64_edac: add DRAM address type conversion facilities Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:39   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 08/21] amd64_edac: add helper to dump relevant registers Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:43   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 09/21] amd64_edac: assign DRAM chip select base and mask in a family-specific way Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 21:59   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-05-05 10:25     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 10/21] amd64_edac: add k8-specific methods Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 22:06   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 11/21] amd64_edac: add f10-and-later methods-p1 Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 22:10   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 12/21] amd64_edac: add f10-and-later methods-p2 Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 23:25   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:54 ` [PATCH 13/21] amd64_edac: add f10-and-later methods-p3 Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 18:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 18:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 19:05     ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 19:23       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 19:42         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-04-29 19:53           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 20:47             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 10:01               ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-30 10:42                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-04 23:36   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 14/21] amd64_edac: add per-family descriptors Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 23:39   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 15/21] amd64_edac: add ECC chipkill syndrome mapping table Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 23:42   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 16/21] amd64_edac: add error decoding logic Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 18:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-04 23:48   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 17/21] amd64_edac: add EDAC core-related initializers Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 23:53   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 18/21] amd64_edac: add ECC reporting initializers Borislav Petkov
2009-05-04 23:59   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 19/21] amd64_edac: add debugging/testing code Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 18:18   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 20/21] amd64_edac: add DRAM error injection logic using sysfs Borislav Petkov
2009-04-29 18:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-05  0:06   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 16:55 ` [PATCH 21/21] amd64_edac: add module registration routines Borislav Petkov
2009-05-05  0:10   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-04-29 19:30 ` [RFC PATCH 00/21 v2] amd64_edac: EDAC module for AMD64 Andi Kleen
2009-04-30 11:57   ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-30 12:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 12:47     ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-30 14:48       ` Aristeu Rozanski
2009-05-01  7:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-03  0:32           ` Aristeu Rozanski
2009-04-30 18:37       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2009-05-01 12:39       ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-30  6:21 [PATCH 13/21] amd64_edac: add f10-and-later methods-p3 Doug Thompson
2009-05-05 19:30 Doug Thompson

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