From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] ring-buffer: fix printk output
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:45:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090429194546.GA17021@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090429080907.efb8ba2f.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:56:25 +0200 Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> >
> > > > My larger point remains, about possibly embedding linux-next
> > > > into lkml. I couldnt think of a single linux-next mail that isnt
> > > > relevant to lkml. It's all about commits that are destined for
> > > > upstream in 0-2.5 months.
> > >
> > > Sure, I'd be OK with zapping the linux-next list.
> >
> > Another, less drastic solution would be to keep it as an _alias_
> > list. All mails posted to it also go to lkml, but it would still be
> > subscribe-able separately.
>
> That would work, although I wonder about the potential for
> duplicates turning up somewhere.
The potential for duplicates is inherent in Cc: lines to begin with.
> > ( This has come up before and this would be useful for a number of
> > other things - such as tracing/instrumentation. Someone who is
> > only interested in instrumentation related discussions could
> > subscribe to that list. )
> >
> > > > > printk_once() is racy on smp and preempt btw ;)
> > > >
> > > > Like WARN_ONCE() and WARN_ON_ONCE(). It's really an "oh crap"
> > > > facility, not for normal kernel messages.
> > > >
> > > > Do we want to complicate them with locking and preemption - or
> > > > should we just concentrate on getting the "oh crap" message out
> > > > to the syslog (before it's possibly too late to get anything
> > > > out)?
> > > >
> > > > I have no strong opinion about it - but i tend to like the
> > > > simpler method most. printk + stack dumps themselves arent
> > > > atomic to begin with.
> > >
> > > Well, it's hardly likely to be a problem. otoh, if two CPUs _do_
> > > hit the thing at the same time, the resulting output will be all
> > > messed up and we'd really like to see it.
> > >
> > > Easily fixed with test_and_set_bit()?
> >
> > but if two CPUs hit it at once then the printk+stack-dump itself is
> > already mixed up. So if we do any atomicity it should be done for
> > all the print-once APIs. (note, lockdep does such message-atomicity
> > already, in its own facility)
>
> Confused.
>
> <gets distracted by FW_BUG and friends. ytf are they in kernel.h?>
>
> #define printk_once(x...) ({ \
> static unsigned long __print_once; \
> \
hm, this doubles the flag size on 32-bit kernels.
> if (!test_and_set_bit(0, &__print_once)) \
> printk(x); \
> })
>
> How can two CPUs do the printk(x)?
they cannot. Did i say they do? What i said (or thought to have said
;-) was that all the print-once APIs need similar treatment - or
neither should.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-29 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-29 4:48 [PATCH 0/5] [GIT PULL] tracing/splice/ringbuffer: updates for tip Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 4:48 ` [PATCH 1/5] tracing: convert ftrace_dump spinlocks to raw Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 5:07 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 5:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 4:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] tracing: fix ref count in splice pages Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 4:48 ` [PATCH 3/5] tracing: only add splice page if entries exist Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 4:48 ` [PATCH 4/5] tracing: have splice only copy full pages Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 4:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] ring-buffer: fix printk output Steven Rostedt
2009-04-29 5:20 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 5:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 5:55 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 6:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 6:20 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 7:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 7:41 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 15:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 19:45 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-29 19:52 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-29 20:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 16:19 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-04-29 20:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 6:03 ` [PATCH 0/5] [GIT PULL] tracing/splice/ringbuffer: updates for tip Ingo Molnar
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