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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	thomas.pi@arcor.dea, Yuriy Lalym <ylalym@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix dirty page accounting in redirty_page_for_writepage()
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:23:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090430172341.GA11865@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0904300914110.3395@localhost.localdomain>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > c0436275:   64 83 05 20 5f 6a c0    addl   $0x1,%fs:0xc06a5f20
> > 
> > There's no atomic instructions at all - the counters here are 
> > only accessed locally. They are local-irq-atomic, but not 
> > cacheline-atomic.
> 
> On other architectures, you need the whole "disable preemption, 
> load-locked, store-conditional, test-and-loop, enable preemption" 
> thing.
> 
> Or "disable interrupts, load, store, restore interrupts".
> 
> There really aren't very many architectures that can do almost 
> unrestricted ALU ops in a single instruction (and thus 
> automatically safe from preemption and interrupts).

Maybe then what we should do is the very first version of commit 
6dbde35308: declaredly make percpu_arith_op() non-irq-atomic (and 
non-preempt-atomic) everywhere. The commit's internal changelog 
still says:

        * made generic percpu ops atomic against preemption

So we introduced preemption-safety in the v2 version of that commit.

This non-atomicity will 1) either not matter 2) will be irq-atomic 
by virtue of being within a critical section 3) can be made atomic 
in the few remaining cases.

And maybe, at most, introduce an opt-in API: percpu_add_irqsafe().

Right?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-30 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-29 23:25 [PATCH] Fix dirty page accounting in redirty_page_for_writepage() Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-29 23:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-29 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-30  2:34   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  0:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30  2:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  6:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30  6:33       ` [ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  6:50         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 13:38           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:12             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 14:12               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 19:41                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 20:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 21:17                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 13:44                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 19:21                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 19:31                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 20:24                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 20:28                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 20:43                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 20:42                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 21:19                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-02  3:00                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-02  7:01                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-02 21:01                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-04 14:08                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-03  2:40       ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 14:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 13:40         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:15             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:45                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 15:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 15:25                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 15:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 15:44                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:11                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30 17:23                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-04-30 18:07                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 19:59                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 20:35                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 21:07                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-02  3:06                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-02  9:03                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-04 14:48                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30 15:54                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:00                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:08                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:50         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 13:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:42             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:59               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:03             ` [ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers

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