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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:43:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090430234312.a63fa5cf.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090501061701.GB19234@kroah.com>

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:17:01 -0700 Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:29:00PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:23:42 +0200 Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
> > > Subject: driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs
> > > 
> > > Devtmpfs lets the kernel create a tmpfs very early at kernel
> > > initialization, before any driver core device is registered. Every
> > > device with a major/minor will have a device node created in this
> > > tmpfs instance. After the rootfs is mounted by the kernel, the
> > > populated tmpfs is mounted at /dev. In initramfs, it can be moved
> > > to the manually mounted root filesystem before /sbin/init is
> > > executed.
> > 
> > Lol, devfs.
> 
> Well, devfs "done right" with hopefully none of the vfs problems the
> last devfs had. :)

I think Adam Richter's devfs rewrite (which, iirc, was tmpfs-based)
would have fixed up these things.  But it was never quite completed and
came when minds were already made up.

I don't understand why we need devfs2, really.  What problems are
people having with teh existing design?

> > >  block/bsg.c                         |    6 
> > >  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_sysfs.c         |    7 
> > >  drivers/input/input.c               |    6 
> > >  drivers/media/dvb/dvb-core/dvbdev.c |   10 +
> > >  drivers/usb/core/usb.c              |   11 +
> > 
> > These five subsystems were updated, but there are so many others.  Why
> > these five in particular?
> 
> These are the ones that create a subdirectory in /dev/   None of the
> others do.

oic.

Where is it determined that these subsystems create /dev subdirectories? 
udev rules?  If so, do we need to henceforth keep devfs2 (sorry, I
can't resist) in sync with udev?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-01  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-30 13:23 [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Kay Sievers
2009-05-01  5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01  6:17   ` Greg KH
2009-05-01  6:43     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-05-01  6:55       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01  7:03         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 10:52           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:38             ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 11:44               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:03         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:11           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 13:18             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 13:24               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  7:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 13:46                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 15:18                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-05-02 15:35                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 18:20                 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-02 19:55                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:47                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 16:20                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-05-04 16:53                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 17:54                           ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 18:13                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 18:55                               ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 19:13                                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 19:30                                 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02  1:24         ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02  1:48           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  2:02             ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02  2:28               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  4:42                 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 13:30                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:01     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:02       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:16   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 19:26     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 21:59       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 22:21         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01  6:57 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 14:01   ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 15:43     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 16:04       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 21:13         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 15:53     ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 16:09       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 16:17         ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 10:19 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 11:13   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 12:38     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 13:12       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-02 15:03         ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-01 14:55       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-01 11:59   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  7:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 11:34   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 20:22     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:39       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 22:04         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-03  7:29           ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-02 21:41       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:54         ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 21:59         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 16:59   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-02 17:57     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-06 12:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07  1:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07  2:08   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07  2:25     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07  2:40       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-14  9:28     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07  8:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-07  9:28   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 14:43     ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-07 15:13       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10  0:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10  0:56       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10  2:11         ` Eric W. Biederman

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