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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yuriy Lalym <ylalym@gmail.com>,
	ltt-dev@lists.casi.polymtl.ca, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [ltt-dev] [PATCH] Fix dirty page accounting in redirty_page_for_writepage()
Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:43:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090501204355.GB20280@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0905011623450.16255@qirst.com>

* Christoph Lameter (cl@linux.com) wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2009, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > So, back to my original point : do you agree on the usefulness of
> > separating fallback irq-disabling from the per-cpu atomic construct ?
> 
> No. Percpu operations are used for statistics and are like atomic
> operations. Aggregation of these leads to a can of worms that we better
> leave unopened.
> 
> > x86 would map :
> >
> > percpu_irqsave/restore to "nothing".
> > percpu_add_return_irq to xadd instruction. It is irq-safe by design.
> >
> > Other architectures (fallback) would map
> >
> > percpu_irqsave/restore to local_irq_save/restore.
> > percpu_add_return_irq to var += value; return var;
> 
> Shudder.... We have explored those types of macros before (while doing
> fastpath optimization for SLUB) and it significant increases the
> complexity. People may add additional instructions in between and now
> interrupts off could be on or off depending on the architecture. Sometimes
> percpu_irqsave does nothing. Very difficult to ensure that the usage is
> correct.
> 
> And we have barely any usage case for such macros.
> 

Then do you have a better idea on how to deal with
__inc_zone_state/inc_zone_state without duplicating the code and without
adding useless local_irq_save/restore on x86 ?

Mathieu

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-01 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-29 23:25 [PATCH] Fix dirty page accounting in redirty_page_for_writepage() Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-29 23:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-29 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-30  2:34   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  0:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30  2:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  6:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30  6:33       ` [ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30  6:50         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 13:38           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:12             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 14:12               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 19:41                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 20:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 21:17                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 13:44                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 19:21                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 19:31                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 20:24                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-01 20:28                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 20:43                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2009-05-01 20:42                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 21:19                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-02  3:00                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-02  7:01                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-02 21:01                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-05-04 14:08                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-03  2:40       ` Tejun Heo
2009-05-04 14:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 13:40         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:14           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:15             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:38               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:45                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 15:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 15:25                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 15:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 15:44                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:06                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:11                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30 17:23                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 18:07                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 19:59                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-01 20:35                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-01 21:07                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-02  3:06                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-05-02  9:03                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-04 14:48                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 16:13                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-04-30 15:54                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:00                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:08                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 13:50         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-04-30 13:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:32           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 14:42             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-04-30 14:59               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-30 16:03             ` [ltt-dev] " Mathieu Desnoyers

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