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From: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:43:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090507144353.GA7603@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510905070228w5ecb5aa9ob24af17a91d2f231@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 11:28:19AM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:17, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> 
> > sysfs is slow.
> > udev is slow.
> 
> Everything is "slow" if you want to boot "fast". It's just numbers,
> and this is more about simplicity and reliability, with just the side
> effect that it's the fastest you can do, when you don't want to lose
> current functionality.

How much of this is because, say, udev is using shell scripts as
opposed to C?  If the answer is you lose flexibility when you do it as
shell script fragments, I just spent 30 minutes with Alsadair chewing
on my ear about how udev's use of shell scripts is making dm/LVM's
life hard --- and I'll note that if we solve this problem by bloating
the kernel, you lose flexibility *anyway* since the kernel code will
be in C and not shell scripts.  :-)

						- Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-07 14:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-30 13:23 [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Kay Sievers
2009-05-01  5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01  6:17   ` Greg KH
2009-05-01  6:43     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01  6:55       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01  7:03         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 10:52           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:38             ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 11:44               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:03         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:11           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 13:18             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 13:24               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  7:19                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 13:46                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 15:18                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-05-02 15:35                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 18:20                 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-02 19:55                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:47                     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 16:20                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-05-04 16:53                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 17:54                           ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 18:13                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 18:55                               ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 19:13                                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 19:30                                 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02  1:24         ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02  1:48           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  2:02             ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02  2:28               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  4:42                 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 13:30                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:01     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:02       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:16   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 19:26     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 21:59       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 22:21         ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01  6:57 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 14:01   ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 15:43     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 16:04       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 21:13         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 15:53     ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 16:09       ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 16:17         ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 10:19 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 11:13   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 12:38     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 13:12       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-02 15:03         ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-01 14:55       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-01 11:59   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02  7:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 11:34   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 20:22     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:39       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 22:04         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-03  7:29           ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-02 21:41       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:54         ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 21:59         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 16:59   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-02 17:57     ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-06 12:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07  1:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07  2:08   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07  2:25     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07  2:40       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-14  9:28     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07  8:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-07  9:28   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 14:43     ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2009-05-07 15:13       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10  0:29     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10  0:56       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10  2:11         ` Eric W. Biederman

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