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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Fabio Comolli <fabio.comolli@gmail.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 21:34:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090509213404.6cd040f7@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090509161923.GA942@suse.de>

On Sat, 9 May 2009 09:19:23 -0700
Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:


btw... I would be a LOT happier about the solution from a technical
point of view if it wasn't the kernel making the device node, but the
kernel exposing a file with a list of all devices, so that userland can
chose to mknod or not, with which permissions if non-default and with
non-default owners.
So basically (and I'm making up a filename here, don't read too much
into that)

cat /proc/alldevices

c   1     4         foobar
b   8     0         sda
c   122   12        dri/card0

etc
making the actual nodes from this in the most simple case is basically
no time in userspace, but a slightly more advanced early userspace app
can even do permissions for the few device nodes where it matters etc.

I can imagine that being a good solution that ends up solving your
problem, but in a way that is more consistent with what the kernel does
right now and how we can then have userland make decisions on where to
make the nodes, with what perms etc etc.
In fact such a file would be a greeat help in general, and would be a
nice generic solution.



-- 
Arjan van de Ven 	Intel Open Source Technology Centre
For development, discussion and tips for power savings, 
visit http://www.lesswatts.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-10  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20090509142601.874865281@blue.kroah.org>
2009-05-09 14:37 ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 01/13] Driver Core: add nodename callbacks Greg KH
2009-05-10 12:52     ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-05-10 13:19       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 20:51         ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 02/13] Driver Core: misc: add nodename support for misc devices Greg KH
2009-05-15 19:58     ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-18 14:34       ` Greg KH
2009-05-18 19:59         ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-18 20:28       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 03/13] Driver Core: usb: add nodename support for usb drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 04/13] Driver Core: block: add nodename support for block drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 05/13] Driver Core: x86: add nodename for cpuid and msr drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 06/13] Driver Core: dvb: add nodename for dvb drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 07/13] Driver Core: input: add nodename for input drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 08/13] Driver Core: sound: add nodename for sound drivers Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 09/13] Driver Core: raw: add nodename for raw devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 10/13] Driver Core: drm: add nodename for drm devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 11/13] Driver Core: aoe: add nodename for aoe devices Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 12/13] Driver Core: bsg: add nodename for bsg driver Greg KH
2009-05-09 14:26   ` [patch 13/13] Driver Core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Greg KH
2009-05-09 15:10   ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Fabio Comolli
2009-05-09 15:08     ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 15:22       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-09 16:19         ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 19:09           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-10  4:34           ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2009-05-10  7:48             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10 14:56               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-10  5:34           ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-10 15:20             ` Greg KH
2009-05-10 15:59               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-10 18:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-10 21:19                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-10 23:47                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11  0:00                     ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                       ` <ac3eb2510905101822t7fde14b3nf2c689621f69c925@mail.gmail.com>
2009-05-11  2:36                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 10:46                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 10:55                             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 11:34                               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:05                                 ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 13:28                                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:49                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 14:59                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 13:10                                 ` [patch 00/13] devtmpfs patches Alan Cox
2009-05-11 14:14                                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 14:30                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 14:42                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 15:53                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 16:28                                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 16:41                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 17:32                                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 17:55                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 18:04                                               ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 18:40                                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 16:56                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 18:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11  3:55                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 11:49                         ` Fabio Comolli
2009-05-11 17:47                           ` Greg KH
2009-05-11 16:40                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11 17:16                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 21:13                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-11  1:00                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-11  3:58                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-11 17:45                       ` Greg KH
2009-05-09 16:46         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-09 17:11           ` Alan Cox
2009-05-09 18:09             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 17:40   ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-11 17:56     ` Greg KH
2009-05-11 20:41       ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-11 21:05         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-11 21:19           ` Alan Cox
2009-05-11 21:27             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 12:45           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-12 15:10             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 15:35               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-12 15:54                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 22:55                   ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 23:22                     ` David P. Quigley
2009-05-12 23:34                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-12 23:50                         ` Greg KH
2009-05-13 12:22                     ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 12:58                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 12:57                         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 13:09                           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 12:59                       ` Alan Cox
2009-05-13 13:20                     ` David Howells
2009-05-13 13:34                       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 14:20                         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 14:35                           ` Stephen Smalley
2009-05-13 16:45                             ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-13 22:43                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-13 23:10                                 ` Greg KH

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