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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	roland@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:54:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090512085402.GA18004@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A08DDE2.1080708@garzik.org>


* Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:

> Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>>>>> That cpumask[] should probably be cpumask[0], to document the
>>>>>> aliasing to ->span and ->cpus properly.
>>>>> If the comment wasn't sufficient documentation, I don't think 
>>>>> that  would help :(
>>>> It's a visual helper: it matches up with how we do these 'zero size 
>>>>  array means dynamic structure continuation' tricks generally.
>>>>
>>>> I first mis-parsed the code for a second when seeing cpumask[].   
>>>> cpumask[0] stands out like a sore thumb. And we dont read comments  
>>>> anyway ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Jeff, i suspect you found this because you are working on something 
>>>>  rather interesting? :) If yes, would it help your project if we 
>>>> did  the cpumask[0] cleanup and pushed it upstream immediately?
>>> I think cpumask[0] would be more clear and consistent with the rest 
>>> of the kernel.
>>>
>>> But unfortunately for the twin projects of (a) static analysis and  
>>> checking with 'sparse', and (b) compiling under another compiler,  
>>> VLA-in-middle-of-struct is a killer in either case.
>>
>> even if at the end of the struct?
>
> Putting the VLA at the end of the struct would be a huge help, 
> yes.
>
> For example, struct sched_group and struct sched_domain are OK 
> as-is (though "[0]" would be preferred).
>
> It is the definition of struct static_sched_group and struct 
> static_sched_domain that creates the problem, because with the 
> bitmap following cpumask[] and span[], the VLA is no longer at the 
> end of the struct.
>
> VLA-in-the-middle raises the complexity required of the compiler 
> quite a bit.  As a result, VLA-in-middle is not implemented in 
> sparse or clang (LLVM's C front-end and static analyzer).

feel free to send patches for this - i dont have those build modes 
to test that it's sufficient. I'd suggest to go the simplest path: 
remove all the vla aliasing tricks: just make struct sched_domain 
use a plain struct cpumask and eliminate static_sched_domain 
altogether.

The memory overhead is marginal as most of our sched domains are 
static allocated (and full size) anyway.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-12  8:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-08 18:48 [PATCH 1/2] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: fix static decl prior to struct declaration Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 19:09   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-10  8:49     ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-10 15:09       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-12 13:34         ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-12 14:03           ` Al Viro
2009-05-13  2:12             ` Rusty Russell
2009-05-13  2:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13  5:36               ` Al Viro
2009-05-13  6:49                 ` [PATCH] sched: avoid flexible array member inside struct (gcc extension) Rusty Russell
2009-05-13 13:51                   ` [tip:sched/urgent] " tip-bot for Rusty Russell
2009-05-11 10:58       ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] kernel/sched.c: VLA in middle of struct Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 20:43         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:49           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-12  2:24             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-12  8:54               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-05-08 19:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: fix static decl prior to struct declaration Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 19:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-08 19:13     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-08 19:38 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 11:26   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 20:06     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:51       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 11:30   ` [tip:sched/core] kernel/{sched, smp}.c: " tip-bot for Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 20:02   ` [PATCH 1/2 v3] kernel/{sched,smp}.c: " Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 21:51     ` [tip:sched/urgent] kernel/{sched, smp}.c: " tip-bot for Jeff Garzik
2009-05-11 21:56       ` Ingo Molnar

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