From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759060AbZEMOls (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2009 10:41:48 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754602AbZEMOlj (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2009 10:41:39 -0400 Received: from one.firstfloor.org ([213.235.205.2]:56912 "EHLO one.firstfloor.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754718AbZEMOli (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2009 10:41:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:46:59 +0200 From: Andi Kleen To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Andi Kleen , Vaidyanathan Srinivasan , Linux Kernel , Suresh B Siddha , Venkatesh Pallipadi , Arjan van de Ven , Ingo Molnar , Dipankar Sarma , Balbir Singh , Vatsa , Gautham R Shenoy , Gregory Haskins , Mike Galbraith , Thomas Gleixner , Arun Bharadwaj Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] Saving power by cpu evacuation sched_max_capacity_pct=n Message-ID: <20090513144659.GV19296@one.firstfloor.org> References: <20090513130541.21440.33364.stgit@drishya.in.ibm.com> <20090513143550.GU19296@one.firstfloor.org> <1242225402.26820.23.camel@twins> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1242225402.26820.23.camel@twins> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 04:36:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 16:35 +0200, Andi Kleen wrote: > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 06:41:00PM +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote: > > > * Using sched_mc=3,4,5 to evacuate 1,2,4 cores is completely > > > non-intuitive and broken interface. Ingo wanted to see if we can > > > model a global percentile tunable that would map to core throttling. > > > > I have one request. CPU throttling is already a very well established > > term in the x86 world, refering to thermal throttling when the CPU > > overheats. This is implemented by ACPI and the CPU. It's always > > a very bad thing that should be avoided at all costs. > > Its about avoiding that. Hmm? Can you explain please? CPU throttling should only happen when your cooling system is broken in some way. It's not a power saving feature, just a "don't make CPU melt" feature. -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.