Re: [PATCH 4/4] zone_reclaim_mode is always 0 by default

Robin Holt
2009-05-13T15:23:17Z

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:08:12PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> Subject: [PATCH] zone_reclaim_mode is always 0 by default
>
> Current linux policy is, if the machine has large remote node distance,
> zone_reclaim_mode is enabled by default because we've be able to assume to
> large distance mean large server until recently.
>
> Unfrotunately, recent modern x86 CPU (e.g. Core i7, Opeteron) have P2P transport
> memory controller. IOW it's NUMA from software view.
>
> Some Core i7 machine has large remote node distance and zone_reclaim don't
> fit desktop and small file server. it cause performance degression.
>
> Thus, zone_reclaim == 0 is better by default. sorry, HPC gusy.
> you need to turn zone_reclaim_mode on manually now.

I am _VERY_ concerned about this change in behavior as it has been the
default for a considerable period of time. I realize it is an easily
changed setting, but it is churn in the default behavior. Are there
any benefits for these small servers to have zone_reclaim turned on?
If you have a large node distance, I would expect they should benefit
_MORE_ than those with small or no node distances.

Are you seeing an impact of the load not distributing pages evenly across
processors instead of a reclaim effect (ie, a single threaded process
faulting in more memory than is node local and expecting those pages
to come from the other node first before doing reclaim)? Maybe there
is a different issue than the ones I am used to thinking about and I am
completely missing the point, please enlighten me.

If this proceeds forward, I would like to propose we at least leave
it on for SGI SN and UV hardware. I can provide a quick patch that
may be a bit ugly because it will depend upon arch specific #defines.
I have not investigated this, but any alternative suggestions are
certainly welcome. Currently, I am envisioning bringing something like
ia64_platform_is("sn2") and is_uv_system into page_alloc.c.

>
> Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>

Please add me:

Cc: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>