From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, davem@davemloft.net,
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mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] v5 expedited "big hammer" RCU grace periods
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:58:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090519085825.GA9388@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090518160254.GD6768@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
* Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 05:42:41PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> > * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > i might be missing something fundamental here, but why not just
> > > > have per CPU helper threads, all on the same waitqueue, and wake
> > > > them up via a single wake_up() call? That would remove the SMP
> > > > cross call (wakeups do immediate cross-calls already).
> > >
> > > My concern with this is that the cache misses accessing all the
> > > processes on this single waitqueue would be serialized, slowing
> > > things down. In contrast, the bitmask that smp_call_function()
> > > traverses delivers on the order of a thousand CPUs' worth of bits
> > > per cache miss. I will give it a try, though.
> >
> > At least if you go via the migration threads, you can queue up
> > requests to them locally. But there's going to be cachemisses
> > _anyway_, since you have to access them all from a single CPU,
> > and then they have to fetch details about what to do, and then
> > have to notify the originator about completion.
>
> Ah, so you are suggesting that I use smp_call_function() to run
> code on each CPU that wakes up that CPU's migration thread? I
> will take a look at this.
My suggestion was to queue up a dummy 'struct migration_req' up with
it (change migration_req::task == NULL to mean 'nothing') and simply
wake it up using wake_up_process().
That will force a quiescent state, without the need for any extra
information, right?
This is what the scheduler code does, roughly:
wake_up_process(rq->migration_thread);
wait_for_completion(&req.done);
and this will always have to perform well. The 'req' could be put
into PER_CPU, and a loop could be done like this:
for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
wake_up_process(cpu_rq(cpu)->migration_thread);
for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
wait_for_completion(&per_cpu(req, cpu).done);
hm?
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-19 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-17 19:11 [PATCH RFC] v5 expedited "big hammer" RCU grace periods Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-17 20:02 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-05-17 22:08 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-18 6:59 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-18 14:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-18 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 15:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-18 15:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-19 8:58 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-05-19 12:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-19 12:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 16:18 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-20 8:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-20 15:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-27 22:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-29 1:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-29 12:06 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-05-30 4:56 ` Paul E. McKenney
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