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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Zdenek Kabelac <zdenek.kabelac@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: INFO: possible circular locking dependency at cleanup_workqueue_thread
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:53:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090519145308.GB20865@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1242730154.26820.501.camel@twins>

On 05/19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> > There is a solution to this, Gautham suggested it a while back, we could
> > make lockdep scan a lock (Z) his dependencies and if in every chain a
> > particular other lock (L2) was taken, ignore this lock (Z) his
> > dependency for the circular analysis at hand.
> >
> > That would mean we would not find the Z->L1 dep to violate the existing
> > one, because we would ignore L2->Z (because in every Z we hold L2), and
> > we would indeed fail on the next: L2->L1 on the next line in your
> > initial program.
> >
> > Implementing this however might be slightly less trivial than this
> > explanation -- it would however rid us of the spin_lock_nest_lock()
> > annotation's need.
>
> Ingo pointed out that that would weaken the possible deadlock detection
> in that it would have to observe a Z outside of L2 before reporting the
> problem, which might be a very rare, but existing, code path.
>
> Another possible way might be to find the smallest cycle instead of just
> any (the first) cycle.

Yes, thanks Peter for your explanations. Not that I fully understand them,
but at least I do understand this is not trivial.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-19 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-12  7:59 INFO: possible circular locking dependency at cleanup_workqueue_thread Zdenek Kabelac
2009-05-17  7:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-17 10:42   ` Ming Lei
2009-05-17 11:18   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-17 13:10     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 19:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-18 20:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 20:16         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-18 20:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-18 22:14             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-19  9:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 10:49                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-19 14:53                   ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2009-05-19  8:51       ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-19 12:00         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-19 15:33           ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-19 16:09             ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-19 16:27               ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-19 18:51                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-22 10:46                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-22 22:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-23  8:21                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-23 23:20                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-24  3:29                           ` Ming Lei
2009-05-24 11:09                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-24 12:48                               ` Ming Lei
2009-05-24 19:09                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-24 14:30                           ` Alan Stern
2009-05-24 19:06                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-05-20  3:36             ` Ming Lei
2009-05-20  6:47               ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-20  7:09                 ` Ming Lei
2009-05-20  7:12                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-20  8:21                     ` Ming Lei
2009-05-20  8:45                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-22  8:03                 ` Ming Lei
2009-05-22  8:11                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-05-20 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 13:18     ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-20 13:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 13:55         ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-20 14:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-24 18:58 ` Peter Zijlstra

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