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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Peter Feuerer <peter@piie.net>
Cc: petkovbb@gmail.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lenb@kernel.org, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:30:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090519203015.GA1362@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cone.1242065107.695268.13534.1000@onepiie>

Hi!

>> the more I'm looking at the driver, the more I get annoyed by that
>> user/kernel mode operation split. Remind me again why the driver should
>> be loaded and not started automatically but the user should be required
>> to activate it explicitly?
>
> The idea of not starting the module in kernel mode was from Matthew. And 
> he stated that it could harm the hardware when software controls the fan  
> instead of the BIOS. It may also be possible, that the warranty gets 

Well... hw is usually designed to protect itself.

>> That's not so optimal, I'd say. The kernel module should _replace_
>> the userspace program, not work alongside it, since the last is flaky
>> and unreliable, and this was the main reason the kernel module was
>> introduced in the first place - to control the fan from kernel space,
>> which is the more sane choice.
>
> The main reason to do this in kernel was the availabilty of atomic ec- 
> read and write functions. But I agree with you that either kernel or BIOS 
> should control the fan and not a userspace tool. I added the user mode 
> just because it wasn't really much more code than just an implementation 
> of the enable/disable functionality.

Kernels crash, too, just like userspace does. It would still make
sense to allow userspace to increase fan speed.
							Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-22  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-25  1:45 [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control Peter Feuerer
2009-04-25  8:42 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 15:31   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-04-27 18:25     ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-26 17:29   ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-27 18:57     ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28  7:25       ` Borislav Petkov
2009-04-28 10:04         ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-04-28 20:17           ` Peter Feuerer
2009-04-28 20:31             ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-05-02 21:21               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-03 18:46                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-06 19:41                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-06 22:17                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-09 17:14                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-11 18:05                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-12  6:02                         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-18 18:04                           ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-18 20:20                             ` Joe Perches
2009-05-19  6:47                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-19  7:06                                 ` Joe Perches
2009-05-24 19:22                             ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:12                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  7:35                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03  8:10                                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 10:52                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03 11:29                                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 13:07                                       ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03 14:49                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-01 14:18                               ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  7:39                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-06-03  7:52                                   ` Peter Feuerer
2009-06-03  8:00                                     ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-19 20:30                         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-05-22 11:50                           ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 14:09                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-22 14:53                               ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-24 11:13                                 ` Peter Feuerer
2009-05-22 16:10                               ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Contro Andreas Mohr
2009-05-22 18:24                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2009-05-22 19:35                                   ` Andreas Mohr
2009-04-26 22:20   ` [PATCH] Acer Aspire One Fan Control Joe Perches
2009-04-27 19:03     ` Peter Feuerer

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