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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cpufreq@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce and use DO_ONCE statement expression macro
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:44:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090522074449.GA23810@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090522070111.GZ8633@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>


* Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:39:16PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 06:26 +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > > Your DO_ONCE(....) parses as "what the fuck is that?" followed by
> > > grepping for definition, and the cost is much higher.
> > 
> > So what do you suggest?
> > 
> > #define pr_info_once(fmt, args...)	printk_once(KERN_INFO pr_fmt(fmt), ##args)
> > #define pr_warning_once(fmt, args...)	printk_once(KERN_WARNING pr_fmt(fmt), ##args)
> > etc
> 
> That would be much saner.

Agreed.

The *_once() namespace meme is intuitive and easily understood, and 
we use it in a couple of places in the kernel and extend it on an 
as-needed basis for reoccuring (and boring and distracting) 
once-flag C code spam. We apply it to 'boring to begin with' 
constructs: printing a message or a warning, etc. So if a kernel 
coder sees a _once() or _ONCE() construct it can be assumed almost 
straight away that the code there is largely uninteresting from a 
code logic POV.

DO_ONCE() on the other hand is non-intuitive as it is a control 
structure that can be applied to _any_ code construct - interesting 
and uninteresting alike. For anything truly interesting that is not 
a kernel library/facility i dont want it to be hidden and abstracted 
away in 98% of the cases, i want to see the raw C form of it.

Otherwise we might as well write the kernel in C++.

	Ingo

      reply	other threads:[~2009-05-22  7:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22  4:27 [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce and use DO_ONCE statement expression macro Joe Perches
2009-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] kernel.h: Add " Joe Perches
2009-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi-cpufreq.c: Use DO_ONCE & spelling fix Joe Perches
2009-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] kernel.h: Remove unused printk_once Joe Perches
2009-05-22  5:26 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] Introduce and use DO_ONCE statement expression macro Al Viro
2009-05-22  5:39   ` Joe Perches
2009-05-22  7:01     ` Al Viro
2009-05-22  7:44       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]

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