From: "Michael S. Zick" <lkml@morethan.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Harald Welte <HaraldWelte@viatech.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 07:27:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200905240727.30677.lkml@morethan.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A188A48.5000208@zytor.com>
On Sat May 23 2009, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Hi Harald,
>
> It looks like there might be a problem with the C7-M ... Michael reports
> that if he sets LOCK_PREFIX to "lock;" it works, but that shouldn't be
> necessary for a uniprocessor.
>
> I'm wondering if we have to revive the OOSTORE hack, or some other
> workaround. It is of course hard for me to track this down since (a) I
> don't have access to the CPU documentation, and (b) I work for Intel
> now, which limits the amount of time I can realistically spend on this.
>
@hpa - I still like your suggestion that it is only one (or a few)
uses of atomic ops that is incorrect and in general atomic ops
should compile away on uni-processor.
Let me translate the findings (see further in the included post) -
The C7-M/CN896 (no tech manual released for CN896 yet) and
the C7-M/CX700 (tech manual released since drivers written)
*) I never tested -09143lk on the C7-M/CN896 because -09143 did
not fail all day (a record for 2.6.30 at the moment).
*) The difference on the C7-M/CX700 between the -09143 and -09143lk
I consider significant.
***) But, keep in mind, just because the system chip set is different,
there are other unknowns - -
We can *not* say at the moment that both machines where using the same
execution paths - even though the binaries where identical.
Also, there where probably different external modules loaded in the
two runs - not many, mostly things are built-in.
The truly significant point on the C7-M/CX700 running -09143lk was that
when the echi-hcd driver got hung in its failure loop, generating a
flood of messages - it did not take down or lock the kernel.
I consider this "forward progress" - it should be possible to build-in
the lock-dep checkers and get something in the message buffer -
rather than just have the machine halt. Its hard to debug a halted
machine with only a glowing power-on light for feed-back. ;)
Mike
> -hpa
>
> [Cc: Alan, who I believed developed the OOSTORE hack back when.]
>
>
> Michael S. Zick wrote:
> > On Fri May 22 2009, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> Michael S. Zick wrote:
> >>> Same integrated motherboard.
> >> Which means same CPU, same BIOS, same motherboard (none of which you're
> >> telling us.)
> >>
> >> cpuinfo and dmidecode would be informative.
> >>
> >
> > The -09143lk files are posted.
> >
> > Download location:
> > http://hp-umpc.com/ce1200v
> >
> > Details so far today:
> > http://forum.netbookuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=6968#p6968
> >
> > Summary:
> > HP-2133 (C7-M/CN896) - 09143 - No results - Still up 3 1/2 hours.
> > Cloudbook (C7-M/CX700) - 09143 - 45 minutes.
> > Cloudbook (C7-M/CX700) - 09143lk - No results - Still up 1 1/2 hours.
> >
> > OK - time to look for the missing "memory" in the clobber lists. ;)
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-24 12:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-22 16:39 [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 18:23 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-22 18:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-22 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-22 19:20 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 22:21 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-23 0:45 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-23 0:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-23 10:44 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-23 11:18 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-24 7:04 ` Harald Welte
2009-05-24 12:48 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-24 15:43 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 22:13 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-27 22:33 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-23 15:52 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-23 18:04 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-23 23:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-24 6:49 ` Harald Welte
2009-05-24 12:38 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-24 17:31 ` Harald Welte
2009-05-27 12:18 ` Re:[VIA Support] was: " Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 12:22 ` [VIA " Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 12:47 ` Harald Welte
2009-05-27 13:00 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-29 12:06 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-30 15:48 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-24 12:27 ` Michael S. Zick [this message]
2009-05-24 17:22 ` Harald Welte
2009-05-24 18:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-24 18:32 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-24 18:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-24 19:09 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 19:03 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 19:18 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 19:46 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 21:10 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 21:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-25 23:03 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 23:35 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-26 0:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-26 12:37 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-26 17:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-25 1:31 ` i2c-viapro / via-fb drivers on VIA CX700 Harald Welte
2009-05-25 12:54 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 13:36 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-25 16:05 ` [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 20:30 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 20:54 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 23:15 ` [Futex RFC] was " Michael S. Zick
2009-05-29 2:00 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 17:01 ` LOCK prefix on uni processor has its use (was Re: [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic) Harald Welte
2009-05-27 17:10 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 17:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-27 17:25 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 18:08 ` LOCK prefix on uni processor has its use Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 18:22 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 18:33 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 18:55 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-27 18:38 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:48 ` Harald Welte
2009-06-02 13:03 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:26 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-02 13:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03 11:46 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 2:56 ` LOCK prefix on uni processor has its use (was Re: [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic) H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-23 20:51 ` [BUG FIX] Make x86_32 uni-processor Atomic ops, Atomic Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 12:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 13:29 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 20:50 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 20:58 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-28 21:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 21:21 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 19:17 ` Michael S. Zick
[not found] ` <200905221343.30638.lkml@morethan.org>
[not found] ` <20090522192329.GF846@one.firstfloor.org>
2009-05-22 19:53 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 20:05 ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-22 20:32 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 20:42 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-22 20:57 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 20:43 ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-22 21:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-22 22:00 ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-22 22:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-22 22:14 ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-22 20:45 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-24 18:59 ` Robert Hancock
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-22 18:50 Michael S. Zick
2009-05-22 19:24 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-22 20:03 ` Michael S. Zick
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