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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Andries E. Brouwer" <Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.a.30-rc7: fat filesystem misdetected as amiga
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:22:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090526062235.GG6856@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090525223120.GC11648@ub>

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:31:20AM +0200, Andries E. Brouwer wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:47:55AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 05:08:12PM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> >> On Mon, 25 May 2009, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> 
> >>>> So apparently this is a bug in the device; it doesn't respond correctly
> >>>> to the first READ command.  But since it does respond correctly to 
> >>>> later commands, everything works okay thereafter.  You ought to be able 
> >>>> to recover from the error by running
> >>>> 
> >>>> 	blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sdb
> >>>> 
> >>>> manually.
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, this helps.
> >>> Would it make sense for kernel to retry automatically?
> >>> Why doesn't it?
> >> 
> >> I don't know the details in this case.  Most likely the error code 
> >> (Logical Block Address Out of Range) is interpreted as a fatal 
> >> non-retryable error.  For other sorts of errors, the kernel does retry.
> >> 
> >>>> As far as I can tell, this has nothing to do with any user programs in 
> >>>> the distribution.  It appears to be entirely the device's fault.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Alan Stern
> >>> 
> >>> BTW, any idea how come I later get errors apparently from amiga fs?
> >> 
> >> Not a clue.  Unless it was some odd side effect of the partition code 
> >> trying to interpret an uninitialized buffer.
> >> 
> >> Alan Stern
> 
> Comments:
> 
> The partition reading code tries one by one all partition types that
> you have configured. If amigafs is one of these, also that will be tried.
> 
> I can imagine that your device is a slow starter and needs some time
> to initialize itself, so that the first, or the first few, commands fail,
> and after that all is well.
> 
> I hate retrying code. Such code is the reason that boot time increases
> all the time. Usually a read failure is missing media or so, and retrying
> is totally meaningless. Only at the lowest level should a retry be done,
> and preferably not blindly "let us try a few times" but only when there
> is a positive reason to expect that a second time might fare better.

Yea. But I don't know where that is.
I noted that if I stick a loop around check_partition
I just get the error reported each time.


> (Amiga is not usually the first or second to be tried, so if it fails
> then either the first few reads fail, or the first read failure is cached.)

Maybe it shouldn't printk stuff on IO failure when probing for
partitions then.

> Andries
> 
> 
> > So, the following works for me as a work-around.  But it's probably not
> > the appropriate way to solve the problem. Or is it? Can someone who
> > understands partitions and filesystems tell?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > block: retry on I/O error when reading partition table
> > 
> > Retry once on an I/O error when reading the partition table:
> > there's no much to loose, and this helps with some disk on
> > key devices I have.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>

-- 
MST

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-26  6:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-25 12:57 2.a.30-rc7: fat filesystem misdetected as amiga Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 14:00 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-05-25 15:32   ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25 18:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 19:32       ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 19:50         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 20:00           ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 20:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 20:37       ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25 20:41         ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-25 20:54           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 20:53         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 21:08           ` Alan Stern
2009-05-25 21:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26 14:04               ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 16:03                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26 16:07                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26 16:51                   ` Alan Stern
2009-05-26 16:52                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 21:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-25 22:31               ` Andries E. Brouwer
2009-05-25 23:05                 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-26  2:26                   ` Ming Lei
2009-05-26  6:17                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-05-26  6:22                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2009-05-25 23:17               ` Oliver Neukum

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