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From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>,
	Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>,
	Janboe Ye <yuan-bo.ye@motorola.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:44:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528114408.GA11285@game.jcrosoft.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090528091513.GA14789@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 10:15 Thu 28 May     , Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 05:37:16PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 18:56 +0100, Russell King wrote:
> > > 
> > > smc91x is a prime example of the kind of information drivers need - base
> > > address and irq are very much insufficient to describe how this device is
> > > connected.  There's much more information required to specify this device
> > > fully, and throwing it into the driver doesn't work.  We've been there
> > > and proven that point.
> > 
> > The device-tree is a very nice and convenient way to convey all the
> > informations the driver need straight to the driver without any platform
> > code in the middle :-)
> 
> I'm still uncertain whether that's actually a true statement.  For some
> cases, of course it's true, but I have a nasty suspicion that we have
> corner cases where OF won't cope well with.
> 
> As I see it, if we were to convert to OF, we're boxing ourselves in to
> a corner that would be extremely difficult to get out of.  We would
> never be able to step back from OF.  Lets take an example.  If we were
> to convert PXA to OF including all the PXA SoC drivers, and a board
> configuration came along which required hacks to a driver.  Later on
> we find that most platform authors are applying similar hacks because
> their hardware is subtly different but those differences can't be
> expressed via OF.  At this point, what do we do?  We can't say "well,
> OF doesn't work well on this platform, we want to get rid of it" that
> would be extremely difficult to impossible to do.
One of the really nice ability is to allow to simplify AMP support
by defining one device tree for each core where each kernel will use nealy the same
kernel. As done by Kumar for the mpc8572ds.

You can found here the boot procedure and kernel option
http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-arm.git;a=blob;f=doc/README.mpc8572ds;h=06dab596bea52ab8d8c2ba89d86f793cc4881ccb;hb=HEAD

Best Regards,
J.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-28 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27  7:08 [RFC] [PATCH] Device Tree on ARM platform Janboe Ye
2009-05-27 14:27 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 14:39   ` Timur Tabi
2009-05-27 15:05     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 15:39       ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 16:20         ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 20:35           ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 23:48             ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 23:52               ` David Miller
2009-05-27 23:58               ` Scott Wood
2009-05-28  0:02                 ` David Miller
2009-05-28  0:07                 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28  0:15                   ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:37                     ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28 22:32                       ` Grant Likely
2009-05-29 12:34                         ` Mark Brown
2009-05-30  9:52                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-30 10:21                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-30 17:56                               ` Mark Brown
2009-06-02  7:57                               ` Holger Schurig
2009-06-02  9:48                                 ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28  2:57                   ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  3:36                     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:29                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  9:51                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-05-28  9:59                       ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:13                       ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 13:33                         ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 13:42                           ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28  9:38                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-05-28  3:21                 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:16               ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  0:55           ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2009-05-27 18:56         ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-27 20:46           ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 21:32             ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-27 15:41       ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-05-27 16:23         ` Scott Wood
2009-05-27 17:56           ` Russell King
2009-05-27 19:08             ` Scott Wood
2009-05-27 19:13               ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-27 19:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-27 19:39                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-27 20:22                     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 20:19                       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-27 20:54                         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:04                           ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:58                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 23:57                       ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28  0:00                         ` David Miller
2009-05-28  3:21                         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  6:34                           ` Wolfram Sang
2009-05-28  7:55                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:34                             ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  7:48                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:22                       ` Ben Dooks
2009-05-27 20:28                     ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:31                       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-28  2:52                   ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  4:27                     ` David Miller
2009-05-28  4:47                       ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  5:31                         ` David Miller
2009-05-28  5:47                           ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:47                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 14:17                 ` Ben Dooks
2009-05-28 14:24                   ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 14:47                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 19:29               ` Russell King
2009-05-27 19:47                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2009-05-27 19:53                 ` Scott Wood
2009-05-27 19:54                   ` Timur Tabi
2009-05-27 20:25                     ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:27                       ` Timur Tabi
2009-05-27 20:55                         ` David Miller
2009-05-27 23:26                           ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-27 20:35                       ` M. Warner Losh
2009-05-27 20:14                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-27 20:23                 ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:27                   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-05-27 20:48                     ` Josh Boyer
2009-05-27 20:56                     ` David Miller
2009-05-27 20:52                 ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 21:05                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  0:11                     ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 12:43                     ` Sascha Hauer
2009-05-28 13:18                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-28 15:04                         ` Sascha Hauer
2009-05-28 15:27                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-29  0:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  7:52                             ` Sascha Hauer
2009-05-29  9:08                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-31 10:52                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 14:31                       ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:25                   ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  8:10                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28  7:38               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-27 20:43             ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  7:37             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28  9:15               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28  9:57                 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:11                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:33                     ` Robert Schwebel
2009-05-28 10:34                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 22:33                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 10:14                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 21:30                     ` David Miller
2009-05-28 12:17                   ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-28 12:48                     ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 12:55                       ` David Gibson
2009-05-28 14:13                     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 16:53                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-05-28 17:05                         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 18:46                         ` Alexander Clouter
2009-05-28 22:21                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  1:39                         ` David Gibson
2009-05-29  1:59                           ` Mitch Bradley
2009-05-29  3:52                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  4:11                               ` David Miller
2009-05-29  4:11                             ` David Miller
2009-05-29  4:56                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-29  5:11                                 ` David Miller
2009-05-28 10:00                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 11:44                 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD [this message]
2009-05-28 12:47                 ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 14:39                   ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28 14:54                 ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 18:26           ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-05-27 16:32       ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 18:50         ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-27 22:24           ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28  0:04             ` Jon Smirl
2009-05-28 13:07               ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 20:42         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 21:38           ` Mark Brown
2009-05-28  3:02       ` David Gibson
2009-05-28  7:32       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 13:38         ` Grant Likely
2009-05-27 22:01     ` Mitch Bradley
2009-05-28  8:17       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-05-28 12:43     ` Holger Schurig
2009-05-28 13:12       ` Mark Brown
2009-05-27 17:44   ` Russell King
2009-05-27 17:52     ` Grant Likely
2009-05-28  3:44       ` David Gibson
2009-05-30 11:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-31  1:29   ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-31  5:56     ` David Miller
2009-06-01  8:37     ` Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov
2009-05-31 10:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-01  9:24   ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-06-01 10:36   ` Janboe Ye

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