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From: "Michael S. Zick" <lkml@morethan.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Duane Griffin <duaneg@dghda.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Harald Welte <HaraldWelte@viatech.com>
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support]
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:27:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906041227.10529.lkml@morethan.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906041004000.4880@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu June 4 2009, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> Side note: is it more stable if you disable the VIA speedstep thing 
> (whatever it's called (ok, google tells me it's called "TwinTurbo" and 
> "Advanced PowerSaver")?
>

The e_powersave code.
Yes, I build test cases with and without - -
It was a fixed-speed kernel build that first hit the 4 hour up-time mark.
I just reposted that build today (the -09143lk).

 
> Features like that easily put a huge stress on power regulators etc, if 
> they result in sudden changes in current draw.  Underspecced capacitors 
> etc can cause CPU "brown-outs", which in turn can easily cause total 
> failure. 
>

There is also a possible thermal issue with these machines - -
I doubt that VIA runs their qualification testing in bake ovens;
which is what NetBook cases amount too.  ;)

Before the week's end - I am going to run a few of these test builds
with the machine in the freezer - a 20C decrease in ambient should
show if there is any thermal relationship with the problem.

I just need to run my lan into the freezer compartment - one of the
places in this house without a lan connection.  ;)

For want of a documented JTAG port...

Mike
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-04 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-03  4:06 Linux 2.6.30-rc8 Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 13:56 ` Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support] Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 14:58   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 15:18     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 15:37       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 17:45         ` Harald Welte
2009-06-08  5:48         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-04 16:00       ` Duane Griffin
2009-06-04 16:08         ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 16:13         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 16:21           ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 17:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 17:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04 17:27                 ` Michael S. Zick [this message]
2009-06-04 17:46                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-05 11:06                     ` VIA PowerSaver (Re: Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support]) Harald Welte
2009-06-05 13:41                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-06 12:17                     ` Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support] Michael S. Zick
2009-06-06 13:28                       ` e_powersaver / underclocking (was Re: Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support]) Harald Welte
2009-06-06 13:46                         ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-06 13:56                           ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08  7:53                             ` e_powersaver driver considered DANGEROUS " Harald Welte
2009-06-08  6:12                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-08 10:27                             ` [PATCH 1/2] CPUFREQ: Enable acpi-cpufreq driver for VIA/Centaur CPUs Harald Welte
2009-06-08 13:16                               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 18:01                                 ` Harald Welte
2009-06-08 14:25                               ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 14:58                                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 15:08                                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 18:35                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-08 18:41                                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 21:32                                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-09  2:15                                 ` Harald Welte
2009-06-09 12:26                                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-09 16:22                                     ` Chuck Ebbert
2009-06-09 16:45                                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-15 13:10                                 ` TSC features, was: " Michael S. Zick
2009-06-15 14:25                                   ` [PATCH, RFC] Re: TSC features, Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 20:03                               ` [PATCH 1/2] CPUFREQ: Enable acpi-cpufreq driver for VIA/Centaur CPUs Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 21:15                                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08 23:48                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-09 12:36                                     ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-09 16:00                                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-09 17:51                                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-09  8:14                       ` Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support] Harald Welte
2009-06-04 17:55                   ` Dave Jones
2009-06-05  7:27                   ` Harald Welte
2009-06-05  7:41                     ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  7:19                 ` Harald Welte
2009-06-05  7:27                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05 10:39                     ` Harald Welte
2009-06-05 13:18                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-08  5:56                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-04 17:13               ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 17:40             ` Harald Welte
2009-06-04 18:12               ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 19:23                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 20:32                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  4:37                     ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  9:00                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 20:33                 ` Dave Jones
2009-06-04 21:01                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 21:24                     ` Dave Jones
2009-06-04 21:38                       ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 21:43                         ` Dave Jones
2009-06-04 22:00                           ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 23:26                             ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  0:15                               ` Dave Jones
2009-06-05  0:27                                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05 11:08                                 ` VIA CPU PCI cache line size (Re: Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support]) Harald Welte
2009-06-05 13:43                                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 20:16               ` Linux 2.6.30-rc8 [also: VIA Support] Andi Kleen
2009-06-04 20:29                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  0:33                   ` Robert Hancock
2009-06-05  0:52                     ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  0:54                       ` Robert Hancock
2009-06-05  7:30                 ` Harald Welte
2009-06-04 17:08           ` Harald Welte
2009-06-04 17:18             ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  7:24               ` Harald Welte
2009-06-05  7:44                 ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-05  7:52                   ` Michael S. Zick
2009-06-04 20:39             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 18:47 ` Linux 2.6.30-rc8 Michael S. Zick

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