From: Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>
Cc: bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Gautham R Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Herbert Poetzl <herbert@13thfloor.at>
Subject: Re: [RFC] CPU hard limits
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:18:11 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090605094811.GD4601@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6599ad830906050232n11aa30d8xfcda0a279a482f32@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 02:32:51AM -0700, Paul Menage wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Bharata B Rao<bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Suppose 10 cgroups each want 10% of the machine's CPU. We can just
> >> give each cgroup an equal share, and they're guaranteed 10% if they
> >> try to use it; if they don't use it, other cgroups can get access to
> >> the idle cycles.
> >
> > Now if 11th group with same shares comes in, then each group will now
> > get 9% of CPU and that 10% guarantee breaks.
>
> So you're trying to guarantee 11 cgroups that they can each get 10% of
> the CPU? That's called over-committing, and while there's nothing
> wrong with doing that if you're confident that they'll not al need
> their 10% at the same time, there's no way to *guarantee* them all
> 10%. You can guarantee them all 9% and hope the extra 1% is spare for
> those that need it (over-committing), or you can guarantee 10 of them
> 10% and give the last one 0 shares.
>
> How would you propose to guarantee 11 cgroups each 10% of the CPU
> using hard limits?
>
You cannot guarantee 10% to 11 groups on any system (unless I am missing
something). The sum of guarantees cannot exceed 100%.
How would you be able to do that with any other mechanism?
Thanks,
--
regards,
Dhaval
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-05 9:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-04 5:36 [RFC] CPU hard limits Bharata B Rao
2009-06-04 12:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-04 21:32 ` Mike Waychison
2009-06-05 3:03 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-05 3:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 4:37 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 4:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 4:49 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 5:09 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-05 5:13 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 5:10 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 5:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 5:27 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 5:31 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-05 6:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 8:16 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-07 6:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 16:14 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-05 9:39 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 13:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 13:42 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-07 6:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 14:54 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-07 6:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 9:24 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 6:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 6:32 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-05 12:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 5:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 5:20 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 3:07 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 8:53 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 9:27 ` Bharata B Rao
2009-06-05 9:32 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 9:48 ` Dhaval Giani [this message]
2009-06-05 9:51 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 9:59 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-06-05 10:03 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-08 8:50 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-06-05 9:36 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 9:48 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 9:55 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-05 9:57 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 10:02 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-05 11:32 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2009-06-05 12:18 ` Paul Menage
2009-06-07 10:11 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2009-06-07 15:35 ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-08 4:37 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2009-06-05 14:44 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-05 13:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-05 13:43 ` Dhaval Giani
2009-06-05 14:45 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-05 9:02 ` Reinhard Tartler
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