From: Alexander Clouter <alex@digriz.org.uk>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sefi@s-e-f-i.de
Subject: Re: When does Linux drop UDP packets?
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 20:29:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090605192933.GH2014@woodchuck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0906051214140.9159@asgard>
Hi,
* david@lang.hm <david@lang.hm> [2009-06-05 12:15:27-0700]:
>
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Alexander Clouter wrote:
>
> > * david@lang.hm <david@lang.hm> [2009-06-04 16:19:56-0700]:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Alexander Clouter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's dead easy to transmit and receive multicast traffic, broadcasting
> > > > network traffic is so 1980's :)
> > >
> > > there is only a difference between multicast and broadcast traffic if you
> > > are spanning subnets.
> > >
> > Well yes and no. Broadcast traffic is *always* handled by the kernel as
> > only the kernel can tell if it is interested in it or not. With
> > multicast the NIC is configured to only pass particular
> > Ethernet multicast packets up to the kernel.
> >
> > By using broadcast traffic the load (okay, hardly a big problem
> > now-a-days) hits *all* the workstations on the subnet, with multicast,
> > only those interested in the traffic receive it.
>
> true, but only for some NICs, and even those tend to have a fairly small
> number of slots for the filters. past these limits the OS handles it all
> just like broadcasts.
>
I *think* only the early ones have a naff non-hashing based to filter
multicast flows, could be wrong though.
Either way, as a packet pusher by day, I dream of the venduh's
discovering that multicast can be used for device discovery rather than
expecting everything to be on the same subnet :-/
In this day and age, using broadcast to do a job is just plain lazy and
braindead.
Cheers
--
Alexander Clouter
.sigmonster says: Misuse may cause suffocation.
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-04 14:53 When does Linux drop UDP packets? Philipp Reh
2009-06-04 15:57 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <20090604161015.GA17303@miyuki>
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.0906041222450.14994@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
2009-06-04 16:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-04 16:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-04 17:46 ` Jaswinder Singh Rajput
2009-06-04 21:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-04 17:57 ` david
2009-06-04 18:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-06-04 18:49 ` david
2009-06-11 23:40 ` Nifty niftylinkern Mitch
2009-06-04 22:03 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-06-04 23:19 ` david
2009-06-05 19:10 ` Alexander Clouter
2009-06-05 19:15 ` david
2009-06-05 19:29 ` Alexander Clouter [this message]
2009-06-24 7:47 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-25 4:32 ` david
2009-06-25 5:00 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-25 5:37 ` david
2009-06-25 6:13 ` Herbert Xu
2009-06-25 7:38 ` Alexander Clouter
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