From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ego@in.ibm.com,
rusty@rustcorp.com.au, mingo@elte.hu,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
oleg@redhat.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm resend] cpuhotplug: introduce try_get_online_cpus() take 3
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:42:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609184238.06b38c3e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2F08D6.6060309@cn.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:13:58 +0800 Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> It's for -mm tree.
>
> It also works for mainline if you apply this at first:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/2/17/58
>
> Subject: [PATCH -mm] cpuhotplug: introduce try_get_online_cpus() take 3
>
> get_online_cpus() is a typically coarsely granular lock.
> It's a source of ABBA or ABBCCA... deadlock.
>
> Thanks to the CPU notifiers, Some subsystem's global lock will
> be required after cpu_hotplug.lock. Subsystem's global lock
> is coarsely granular lock too, thus a lot's of lock in kernel
> should be required after cpu_hotplug.lock(if we need
> cpu_hotplug.lock held too)
>
> Otherwise it may come to a ABBA deadlock like this:
>
> thread 1 | thread 2
> _cpu_down() | Lock a-kernel-lock.
> cpu_hotplug_begin() |
> mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock) |
> __raw_notifier_call_chain(CPU_DOWN_PREPARE) | get_online_cpus()
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lock a-kernel-lock.(wait thread2) | mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock)
> (wait thread 1)
uh, OK.
> But CPU online/offline are happened very rarely, get_online_cpus()
> returns success quickly in all probability.
> So it's an asinine behavior that get_online_cpus() is not allowed
> to be required after we had held "a-kernel-lock".
>
> To dispel the ABBA deadlock, this patch introduces
> try_get_online_cpus(). It returns fail very rarely. It gives the
> caller a chance to select an alternative way to finish works,
> instead of sleeping or deadlock.
I still think we should really avoid having to do this. trylocks are
nasty things.
Looking at the above, one would think that a correct fix would be to fix
the bug in "thread 2": take the locks in the correct order? As
try_get_online_cpus() doesn't actually have any callers, it's hard to
take that thought any further.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-10 1:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-29 8:29 [PATCH 1/2] cpuhotplug: use rw_semaphore for cpu_hotplug Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-29 20:23 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-29 21:07 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-05-29 21:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-01 1:04 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-01 0:52 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-01 2:22 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-05-30 1:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-05-30 4:37 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-06-04 6:58 ` [PATCH] cpuhotplug: introduce try_get_online_cpus() take 2 Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-04 20:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-05 1:32 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-05 2:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-06-05 15:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-08 2:36 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-08 4:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-06-08 14:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-09 12:07 ` [PATCH -mm] cpuhotplug: introduce try_get_online_cpus() take 3 Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-09 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-09 23:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-10 1:13 ` [PATCH -mm resend] " Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-10 1:42 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2009-06-11 8:41 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-11 18:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-06-15 4:04 ` Gautham R Shenoy
2009-06-10 0:57 ` [PATCH -mm] " Lai Jiangshan
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