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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
	"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:31:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906102331.14267.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0906101656100.2589-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Wednesday 10 June 2009, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > > The idea is that if ->autosuspend() or ->autoresume() returns an error code,
> > > this is a situation the PM core cannot recover from by itself, so it shouldn't
> > > pretend it knows what's happened.  Instead, it marks the device as "I don't
> > > know if it is safe to touch this" and won't handle it until the device driver
> > > or bus type clears the status.
> 
> I'm still not sure this is a good idea.  When would the device driver 
> clear the status?  The autosuspend and autoresume methods run 
> asynchronously, so after they're done the driver doesn't get a chance 
> to do anything.
> 
> It might be best just to set the status to RPM_ACTIVE if a runtime 
> suspend fails and RPM_SUSPENDED if a runtime resume fails.
> 
> > Finally, I decided to follow the Oliver's suggestion that some error codes returned
> > by ->autosuspend() and ->autoresume() may be regarded as "go back to the
> > previous state" information.  I chose to use -EAGAIN and -EBUSY for this
> > purpose.
> 
> Maybe...
> 
> 
> >  struct dev_pm_info {
> >  	pm_message_t		power_state;
> > -	unsigned		can_wakeup:1;
> > -	unsigned		should_wakeup:1;
> > +	unsigned int		can_wakeup:1;
> > +	unsigned int		should_wakeup:1;
> >  	enum dpm_state		status;		/* Owned by the PM core */
> >  #ifdef	CONFIG_PM_SLEEP
> >  	struct list_head	entry;
> >  #endif
> > +#ifdef	CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME
> > +	struct delayed_work	suspend_work;
> > +	unsigned int		suspend_aborted:1;
> > +	struct work_struct	resume_work;
> > +	struct completion	work_done;
> > +	enum rpm_state		runtime_status;
> > +	spinlock_t		lock;
> > +#endif
> >  };
> 
> You know, it doesn't make any sense to have a suspend and a resume 
> both pending at the same time.
>
> So you could add only a delayed_work structure and use its embedded
> work_struct for resume requests.

I thought so too, but I was wrong. ;-)

If resume is requested while the suspend hasn't completed yet, we should
queue it (it's totally valid to request a suspending device to resume IMO), but
the delayed work is still being used by the workqueue code, so we can't modify
it.

> Also, you might borrow a trick from Dave Brownell.  Define the RPM_*
> values so that the individual bits have meanings.  Then instead of
> testing for multiple possible values of runtime_status, you could do a
> simple bit test.

Yes, I'm seriously considering using this approach.

> > +/**
> > + * pm_device_suspended - Check if given device has been suspended at run time.
> > + * @dev: Device to check.
> > + * @data: Ignored.
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if the device has been suspended or -EBUSY otherwise.
> > + */
> > +static int pm_device_suspended(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > +{
> > +	int ret;
> > +
> > +	spin_lock(&dev->power.lock);
> > +
> > +	ret = dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_SUSPENDED ? 0 : -EBUSY;
> > +
> > +	spin_unlock(&dev->power.lock);
> 
> How does acquiring the lock help here?

OK, it doesn't.

> > +/**
> > + * pm_check_children - Check if all children of a device have been suspended.
> > + * @dev: Device to check.
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if all children of the device have been suspended or -EBUSY
> > + * otherwise.
> > + */
> 
> We might want to do a runtime suspend even if the device's children
> aren't already suspended.  For example, you could suspend a link while
> leaving the device on the other end of the link at full power --
> especially if powering down the device is slow but changing the link's
> power level is fast.

Well, this means that the dependencies between devices in the device tree are
pretty much useless for the run-time PM as far as the core is concerned.  In
which case, why did you mention them at all?

> > +/**
> > + * pm_autosuspend - Run autosuspend callback of given device object's bus type.
> > + * @work: Work structure used for scheduling the execution of this function.
> > + *
> > + * Use @work to get the device object the suspend has been scheduled for,
> > + * check if the suspend request hasn't been cancelled and run the
> > + * ->autosuspend() callback from the device's bus type driver.  Update the
> > + * run-time PM flags in the device object to reflect the current status of the
> > + * device.
> > + */
> > +static void pm_autosuspend(struct work_struct *work)
> 
> Can we call this something else?  "Autosuspend" implies that the 
> suspend originated from within the kernel.  How about "pm_suspend_work" 
> or "pm_runtime_suspend"?  Likewise for the resume routines.

OK

> I haven't checked the details of the code yet.  More later...

OK, thanks.

Best,
Rafael

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-10 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-06 22:54 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-06 22:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Separate suspend to RAM functionality from core Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:36   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-06 22:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM/Hibernate: Rename disk.c to hibernate.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:37   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-07 20:51 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Alan Stern
2009-06-07 21:46   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-07 22:02     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:05     ` [linux-pm] Run-time PM idea (was: " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 11:29       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 12:04         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 18:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  7:25             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 14:33               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 14:48                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 22:44               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 20:35         ` Alan Stern
2009-06-08 21:31           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  2:49             ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 22:57               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10  8:29                 ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 14:20                   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 19:27                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:38                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 22:01                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 23:07                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 23:42                             ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 13:48                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:57                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 14:16                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 19:38                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:46                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:14                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:31                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-06-10 23:15                       ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11  5:27                         ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 23:42                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:17                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 14:52                           ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 15:06                             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 15:22                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 16:05                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 18:36                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 21:05                                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12  2:16                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12  8:15                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 14:32                                           ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:09                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 19:48                                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:56                                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 21:23                                                   ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 23:06                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-13 18:08                                                       ` Alan Stern
2009-06-13 22:04                                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 19:43                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 14:25                               ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11  5:18                   ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-11  9:08                     ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12  3:13                       ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-12  8:11                         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 10:54                           ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 20:48                 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:15                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09  7:31             ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 23:02               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08  6:54     ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 11:30       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 13:05         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:11           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:32               ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:54                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:24                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:35                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:44                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:51                           ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-24 15:03                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19  1:50                         ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Robert Hancock
2009-06-08 13:58                   ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:39               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:44                 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:30                   ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 15:06                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 15:11                       ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 16:29                       ` Ray Lee
2009-06-09 22:44                   ` Jiri Kosina

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