From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
"Linux-pm mailing list" <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch update] Re: [linux-pm] Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:31:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906102331.14267.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0906101656100.2589-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
On Wednesday 10 June 2009, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> > > The idea is that if ->autosuspend() or ->autoresume() returns an error code,
> > > this is a situation the PM core cannot recover from by itself, so it shouldn't
> > > pretend it knows what's happened. Instead, it marks the device as "I don't
> > > know if it is safe to touch this" and won't handle it until the device driver
> > > or bus type clears the status.
>
> I'm still not sure this is a good idea. When would the device driver
> clear the status? The autosuspend and autoresume methods run
> asynchronously, so after they're done the driver doesn't get a chance
> to do anything.
>
> It might be best just to set the status to RPM_ACTIVE if a runtime
> suspend fails and RPM_SUSPENDED if a runtime resume fails.
>
> > Finally, I decided to follow the Oliver's suggestion that some error codes returned
> > by ->autosuspend() and ->autoresume() may be regarded as "go back to the
> > previous state" information. I chose to use -EAGAIN and -EBUSY for this
> > purpose.
>
> Maybe...
>
>
> > struct dev_pm_info {
> > pm_message_t power_state;
> > - unsigned can_wakeup:1;
> > - unsigned should_wakeup:1;
> > + unsigned int can_wakeup:1;
> > + unsigned int should_wakeup:1;
> > enum dpm_state status; /* Owned by the PM core */
> > #ifdef CONFIG_PM_SLEEP
> > struct list_head entry;
> > #endif
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME
> > + struct delayed_work suspend_work;
> > + unsigned int suspend_aborted:1;
> > + struct work_struct resume_work;
> > + struct completion work_done;
> > + enum rpm_state runtime_status;
> > + spinlock_t lock;
> > +#endif
> > };
>
> You know, it doesn't make any sense to have a suspend and a resume
> both pending at the same time.
>
> So you could add only a delayed_work structure and use its embedded
> work_struct for resume requests.
I thought so too, but I was wrong. ;-)
If resume is requested while the suspend hasn't completed yet, we should
queue it (it's totally valid to request a suspending device to resume IMO), but
the delayed work is still being used by the workqueue code, so we can't modify
it.
> Also, you might borrow a trick from Dave Brownell. Define the RPM_*
> values so that the individual bits have meanings. Then instead of
> testing for multiple possible values of runtime_status, you could do a
> simple bit test.
Yes, I'm seriously considering using this approach.
> > +/**
> > + * pm_device_suspended - Check if given device has been suspended at run time.
> > + * @dev: Device to check.
> > + * @data: Ignored.
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if the device has been suspended or -EBUSY otherwise.
> > + */
> > +static int pm_device_suspended(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > +{
> > + int ret;
> > +
> > + spin_lock(&dev->power.lock);
> > +
> > + ret = dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_SUSPENDED ? 0 : -EBUSY;
> > +
> > + spin_unlock(&dev->power.lock);
>
> How does acquiring the lock help here?
OK, it doesn't.
> > +/**
> > + * pm_check_children - Check if all children of a device have been suspended.
> > + * @dev: Device to check.
> > + *
> > + * Returns 0 if all children of the device have been suspended or -EBUSY
> > + * otherwise.
> > + */
>
> We might want to do a runtime suspend even if the device's children
> aren't already suspended. For example, you could suspend a link while
> leaving the device on the other end of the link at full power --
> especially if powering down the device is slow but changing the link's
> power level is fast.
Well, this means that the dependencies between devices in the device tree are
pretty much useless for the run-time PM as far as the core is concerned. In
which case, why did you mention them at all?
> > +/**
> > + * pm_autosuspend - Run autosuspend callback of given device object's bus type.
> > + * @work: Work structure used for scheduling the execution of this function.
> > + *
> > + * Use @work to get the device object the suspend has been scheduled for,
> > + * check if the suspend request hasn't been cancelled and run the
> > + * ->autosuspend() callback from the device's bus type driver. Update the
> > + * run-time PM flags in the device object to reflect the current status of the
> > + * device.
> > + */
> > +static void pm_autosuspend(struct work_struct *work)
>
> Can we call this something else? "Autosuspend" implies that the
> suspend originated from within the kernel. How about "pm_suspend_work"
> or "pm_runtime_suspend"? Likewise for the resume routines.
OK
> I haven't checked the details of the code yet. More later...
OK, thanks.
Best,
Rafael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-10 21:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-06 22:54 [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-06 22:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] PM: Separate suspend to RAM functionality from core Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 6:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-06 22:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] PM/Hibernate: Rename disk.c to hibernate.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 6:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-07 20:51 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code Alan Stern
2009-06-07 21:46 ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH 0/2] PM: Rearrange core suspend code) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-07 22:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-07 22:05 ` [linux-pm] Run-time PM idea (was: " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 11:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 12:04 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 18:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09 7:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 14:33 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 14:48 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 22:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 20:35 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-08 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09 2:49 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-09 22:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 8:29 ` [patch update] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 14:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 19:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 22:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 23:07 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-10 23:42 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:57 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 14:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 19:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 13:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-10 21:14 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-06-10 23:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 5:27 ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 23:42 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 14:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 14:52 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 15:06 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 15:22 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 16:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-11 18:36 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 21:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 2:16 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 8:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 19:48 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 19:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 21:23 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-12 23:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-13 18:08 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-13 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-11 19:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-12 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-11 5:18 ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-11 9:08 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 3:13 ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-12 8:11 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-12 10:54 ` Magnus Damm
2009-06-10 20:48 ` Alan Stern
2009-06-10 21:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-09 7:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-09 23:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 6:54 ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 11:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-06-08 13:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:32 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 13:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 13:54 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:35 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:51 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-24 15:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-19 1:50 ` Run-time PM idea (was: " Robert Hancock
2009-06-08 13:58 ` Run-time PM idea (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:39 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-06-08 13:44 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 14:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 14:30 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 15:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-08 15:11 ` Matthew Garrett
2009-06-08 16:29 ` Ray Lee
2009-06-09 22:44 ` Jiri Kosina
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