From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:52:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090611165226.GV8633@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906110922080.3573@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:26:55AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >
> > Err, no. This adds tons of userspace code into tools/ which
> > should not be in the kernel tree but a proper package.
>
> I disagree.
>
> We've had tons of cases where we tried to "separate" the user-land code
> and the kernel code, in the name of "beauty" of whatever.
>
> It's almost invariably a disaster.
>
> Look at oprofile. F*ck me, what a horrid piece of crap.
Yes. So's sysfs, so's udev, so's hal, so's any number of revolting
strings of intertwined copulating tapeworms hanging off the kernel's arse.
Do you consider "put into tools/" as permission to change interface at will?
More to the point, do the authors of that stuff consider it as such?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-11 16:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-11 16:03 [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:34 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:47 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:04 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 16:52 ` Al Viro [this message]
2009-06-11 16:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-11 17:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 17:05 ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:08 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 17:12 ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 17:22 ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 17:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-11 18:10 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:38 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:07 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:35 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 1:43 ` Robert Richter
2009-06-12 3:21 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:37 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 19:05 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:24 ` Martin Bligh
2009-06-11 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 20:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 20:49 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:08 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 21:17 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:26 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 22:18 ` Jiri Slaby
2009-06-11 22:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 22:38 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 7:35 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 23:19 ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 23:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 0:26 ` Al Viro
2009-06-12 2:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 4:05 ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 21:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-12 10:19 ` Jörn Engel
2009-06-11 21:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-28 1:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-11 19:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-11 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12 4:07 ` Kyle McMartin
2009-06-11 16:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-15 13:41 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-06-15 15:18 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-12 9:56 ` stephane eranian
2009-06-12 10:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-18 21:58 ` stephane eranian
2009-06-22 13:10 ` Performance analysis under Linux (was: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux) Ingo Molnar
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