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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@googlemail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:05:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090612040558.GD8633@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906111955120.3237@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:58:37PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Al Viro wrote:
> > 
> > So could you please clarify the situation?  If the ABI compatibility
> > requirements remain the same as they used to be, whether the userland code
> > is in-tree or not, I'm fine with the entire thing.  If they do not (and *ONLY*
> > in that case), I think we have a real problem.
> 
> I think the ABI requirements are the same.

OK, then.

> That said, I also suspect that as with oprofile itself, we'll end up 
> having expansions of the ABI that may well be CPU-specific. I also suspect 
> that there will probably be breakage early on just because things will 
> inevitably settle. 
> 
> And I think that for something like a profiling tool, such breakage is 
> much more acceptable than for the actual binaries you'd profile. It's not 
> like we're talking about breaking the boot or functionality of a machine, 
> as happens when we break the X server (which has happened).

Sure.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-12  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-11 16:03 [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 16:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:26   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:34     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 16:38       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:46         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 16:54           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 16:47         ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:04         ` David Newall
2009-06-11 16:52     ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 16:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-06-11 17:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 17:05           ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:08             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 17:12             ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 17:22               ` Ray Lee
2009-06-11 17:06           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 17:59             ` Pekka Enberg
2009-06-11 18:10               ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:38                   ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:07                       ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:29                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 19:35                             ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:49                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  1:43                                 ` Robert Richter
2009-06-12  3:21                                 ` David Newall
2009-06-11 19:37                           ` David Newall
2009-06-11 18:51                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-11 19:05                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 18:24             ` Martin Bligh
2009-06-11 18:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 20:23                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-11 20:49                   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:08                     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 21:17                       ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-11 21:26                         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-11 22:18                           ` Jiri Slaby
2009-06-11 22:27                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 22:38                               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 22:49                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  7:35                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 23:19                               ` Al Viro
2009-06-11 23:25                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  0:26                                   ` Al Viro
2009-06-12  2:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  4:05                                       ` Al Viro [this message]
2009-06-11 21:59                         ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-12 10:19                           ` Jörn Engel
2009-06-11 21:14                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-28  1:19                   ` Felipe Contreras
2009-06-11 19:58             ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-11 20:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-12  4:07             ` Kyle McMartin
2009-06-11 16:58       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-11 18:50     ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-15 13:41       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2009-06-15 15:18         ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-12  9:56 ` stephane eranian
2009-06-12 10:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-18 21:58     ` stephane eranian
2009-06-22 13:10       ` Performance analysis under Linux (was: Re: [GIT PULL] Performance Counters for Linux) Ingo Molnar

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