From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: "Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
swetland@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, san@android.com,
rlove@google.com
Subject: Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:39:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200906121039.44524.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090612012304.GA25550@shareable.org>
On Friday 12 June 2009 03:23:04 Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:37:21PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > "No reason given" part was just lovely..
> > >
> > > After getting a couple of such messages I decided to stay as far away from
> > > linux-arm-kernel list as possible..
> > >
> > > Before interacting with linux-arm-kernel list I really thought that people
> > > exaggerated the issue and that their complains were unfounded..
> >
> > I wish people told me about this - it's certainly not my policy nor
> > indeed the policy which should be applied to the list. I'll find out
> > what's going on when my co-list admin returns from his vacation.
> >
> > Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
>
> Before I subscribed to linux-arm-kernel, I had quite a few moderation
> messages just because I responded to threads which included
> linux-arm-kernel in the addresses, but were cross-posted (by others)
> to say linux-kernel, uclinux-dev or linux-embedded.
>
> I got moderation messages, and found them slightly annoying because
> I'd put effort into my replies, and presumed that some people involved
> in the thread wouldn't see them. Possibly the important people.
>
> That's the main reason I subscribed to linux-arm-kernel - just so I
> know people can see replies to threads that I'm responding to on other
> lists.
>
> I do actually work on ARM kernels too, so don't unsubscribe me for that :-)
>
> When I did subscribe to linux-arm-kernel, I got a message telling me I
> was being considered... Months went by, and it didn't subscribe me.
> That was annoying. I presumed I'd been rejected.
>
> I tried again a few months later, and this time the subscription
> approval process was relatively quick at a week or so. I was
> beginning to think I'd be silently rejected again, therefore delighted
> to be counted among the Special Ones allowed to subscribe :-)
:)
Now imagine a new or a seasonal ARM developer waiting a week just to be
able to post an obvious bug fix patch. In most other kernel areas such
patch would be long applied.
The irony of this all is that the same people that complain about lack of
time still invest it in such idiotic tasks like approval of subscription
requests or moderation of messages..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-12 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-10 10:31 HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 11:13 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-10 11:49 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 12:04 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-10 17:43 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 19:47 ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11 7:24 ` Kalle Valo
2009-06-10 19:58 ` Gary Thomas
2009-06-10 20:09 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 8:10 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 8:27 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:24 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:53 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 14:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 14:58 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13 0:41 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-11 12:45 ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11 13:00 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:09 ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11 14:33 ` Alex Riesen
2009-06-11 14:51 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 19:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-10 20:24 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 20:47 ` MSM6281 support was: " Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 21:08 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 21:28 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 21:28 ` Marek Vasut
2009-06-10 21:33 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 22:10 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 22:19 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 4:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-06-11 7:50 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 21:05 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-10 21:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 21:55 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 8:25 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 8:48 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 15:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 15:48 ` David Brown
2009-06-12 16:00 ` David Brown
2009-06-12 16:43 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-12 16:55 ` davidb
2009-06-12 17:35 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-12 20:47 ` HTC Dream compile fixes (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 20:50 ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 22:02 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-12 22:27 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 22:31 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 22:36 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-15 17:06 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 22:04 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 17:01 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 17:10 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-15 18:32 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-17 9:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-17 9:40 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-17 17:16 ` HTC Dream keymap (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-17 21:36 ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-06-18 10:13 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-18 19:33 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-18 19:38 ` David Miller
2009-06-18 23:07 ` defkeymap making machine useless (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 9:33 ` Jiri Kosina
2009-06-22 17:22 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-23 13:06 ` HTC Dream in 2.6.31-git? " Pavel Machek
2009-06-23 21:45 ` davidb
2009-06-24 9:10 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 23:37 ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-06-25 11:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-26 23:01 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 9:32 ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Mark Brown
2009-06-11 7:02 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 7:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 7:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 10:00 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-11 10:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 10:44 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 10:47 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:11 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 10:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:04 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:12 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:18 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:22 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 12:00 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 12:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 12:54 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 13:12 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 16:26 ` Kevin Hilman
2009-06-11 16:57 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-07-22 17:54 ` ARM platform trees (was: Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Kevin Hilman
2009-07-22 20:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:18 ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 13:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 13:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 14:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 14:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 15:41 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 15:51 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 17:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-11 21:22 ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-11 21:40 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2009-06-12 1:21 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-12 1:26 ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-12 1:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-12 2:16 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 10:25 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-12 10:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 10:40 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 10:44 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 11:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13 7:05 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-15 16:21 ` davidb
2009-06-15 16:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 16:45 ` davidb
2009-06-15 22:25 ` Ben Leslie
2009-06-15 22:39 ` davidb
2009-06-15 23:41 ` Ben Leslie
2009-06-16 6:12 ` davidb
2009-06-15 17:09 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 7:46 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 10:26 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 14:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:32 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 13:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12 1:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-11 15:15 ` Joe Perches
2009-06-11 15:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 15:53 ` Joe Perches
2009-06-11 16:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 16:37 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-11 16:42 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12 1:14 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-06-12 1:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12 8:39 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2009-06-12 17:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12 18:38 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-12 23:40 ` David Miller
2009-06-12 23:43 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 18:24 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-13 0:30 ` Ben Dooks
2009-06-13 9:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13 9:13 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-13 9:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-13 10:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-13 19:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-15 9:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-15 12:55 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 15:59 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-16 15:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12 1:33 ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-12 12:05 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-14 9:06 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-11 11:42 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:18 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:34 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 17:10 ` Ben Dooks
2009-06-11 17:53 ` Marek Vasut
2009-06-13 0:38 ` Ben Dooks
2009-06-13 2:16 ` David Miller
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