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From: Ben Dooks <ben@fluff.org>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	swetland@google.com, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, san@android.com,
	rlove@google.com
Subject: Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:30:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090613003016.GB20442@fluff.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090611182445.GA7658@uranus.ravnborg.org>

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:24:45PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:15:10AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:38 +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 05:00:30AM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > > > From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
> > > > Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:49:12 +0100
> > > > 
> > > > > I can not keep up with the number of patches that need to be
> > > > > reviewed and ultimately merged.  I know this, and I freely admit it,
> > > > > and I have done so on many occasions.
> > > > 
> > > > Then split up the responsibilities to other people instead of being
> > > > the choke point.  Controlling everything isn't so important.
> > > 
> > > Don't you think that I've been trying to get other people to be more
> > > involved?
> > > 
> > > - I've been pushing people to send patches to the relevent mailing
> > >   list(s) and maintainer(s) for years.
> > > 
> > > - I've been pushing people to send their ARM patches to the ARM
> > >   mailing list rather than directly into the patch system for review
> > >   (it even has a comment telling people this) so that others can get
> > >   involved in reviewing them, and sharing that work load.
> > > 
> > > Do you think either have been anywhere near successful?
> > []
> > > I've been trying to get greater participation
> > > but it's just not happening.
> > 
> > I suggest you stop using subscriber-only mailing lists and
> > use linux-arm@vger.kernel.org.
> 
> This is main point here is to offload Russell.
> One way to offload Russell is to have competent people reviewing platform
> code for ARM. This is best done by other platform people.
> Me and you - we can helpt. But the people where we need higher
> involvement are already on the list.

Personally, I'm not on linux-arm@vger.kernel.org and don't plan on
being there either. If people are too stupid to read the maintainers
entry and realise that linux-arm-kernel is moderated and they might
thus have to subscribe to post there then they can be safely ignored.

-- 
Ben (ben@fluff.org, http://www.fluff.org/)

  'a smiley only costs 4 bytes'

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-13  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-10 10:31 HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 11:13 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-10 11:49   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 12:04     ` Ian Molton
2009-06-10 17:43 ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 19:47   ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11  7:24     ` Kalle Valo
2009-06-10 19:58   ` Gary Thomas
2009-06-10 20:09     ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11  8:10   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11  8:27     ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:09       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:24         ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:48           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:53             ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 14:57               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 14:58               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13  0:41           ` Tim Bird
2009-06-11 12:45         ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11 13:00           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:09             ` Bob Copeland
2009-06-11 14:33     ` Alex Riesen
2009-06-11 14:51       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 19:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-10 20:24   ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 20:47     ` MSM6281 support was: " Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 21:08       ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-10 21:28         ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 21:28         ` Marek Vasut
2009-06-10 21:33           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 22:10             ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-10 22:19               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11  4:02                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-06-11  7:50                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 21:05     ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-10 21:37     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-10 21:55       ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11  8:25         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11  8:48           ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 15:05             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 15:48               ` David Brown
2009-06-12 16:00               ` David Brown
2009-06-12 16:43                 ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-12 16:55                   ` davidb
2009-06-12 17:35                     ` Stefan Schmidt
2009-06-12 20:47               ` HTC Dream compile fixes (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 20:50               ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 22:02                 ` Ian Molton
2009-06-12 22:27                   ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 22:31                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 22:36                       ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-15 17:06                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 22:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 17:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 17:10                   ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-15 18:32                   ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-17  9:11                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-17  9:40                       ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-17 17:16                         ` HTC Dream keymap (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-17 21:36                         ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-06-18 10:13                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-18 19:33                             ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-18 19:38                               ` David Miller
2009-06-18 23:07                                 ` defkeymap making machine useless (was Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Pavel Machek
2009-06-22  9:33                                   ` Jiri Kosina
2009-06-22 17:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-23 13:06                         ` HTC Dream in 2.6.31-git? " Pavel Machek
2009-06-23 21:45                           ` davidb
2009-06-24  9:10                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 23:37                               ` Arve Hjønnevåg
2009-06-25 11:42                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-26 23:01                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11  9:32     ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Mark Brown
2009-06-11  7:02   ` David Miller
2009-06-11  7:18     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11  7:37     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 10:00       ` Mark Brown
2009-06-11 10:34       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 10:44         ` David Miller
2009-06-11 10:47           ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:05             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:11               ` David Miller
2009-06-11 10:55           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:04             ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:12         ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:18           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 11:22             ` David Miller
2009-06-11 11:49               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 12:00                 ` David Miller
2009-06-11 12:38                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 12:54                     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 13:12                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 16:26                         ` Kevin Hilman
2009-06-11 16:57                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-07-22 17:54                         ` ARM platform trees (was: Re: HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support) Kevin Hilman
2009-07-22 20:55                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:18                       ` HTC Dream aka. t-mobile g1 support Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 13:21                       ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 13:37                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 14:00                           ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 14:06                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 15:41                               ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 15:51                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 17:29                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-11 21:22                                 ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-11 21:40                                   ` H Hartley Sweeten
2009-06-12  1:21                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-12  1:26                                     ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-12  1:51                                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-06-12  2:16                                         ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 10:25                                           ` Ian Molton
2009-06-12 10:35                                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12 10:40                                             ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 10:44                                             ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-12 11:05                                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13  7:05                                               ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-15 16:21                                                 ` davidb
2009-06-15 16:27                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 16:45                                                     ` davidb
2009-06-15 22:25                                                   ` Ben Leslie
2009-06-15 22:39                                                     ` davidb
2009-06-15 23:41                                                       ` Ben Leslie
2009-06-16  6:12                                                         ` davidb
2009-06-15 17:09                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-12  7:46                                       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-12 10:26                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2009-06-11 14:47                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:59                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:28                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 13:32                         ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 13:21                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 15:52                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12  1:27                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-11 15:15                     ` Joe Perches
2009-06-11 15:39                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 15:53                         ` Joe Perches
2009-06-11 16:08                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-11 16:37                             ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-11 16:42                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12  1:14                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-06-12  1:23                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12  8:39                                   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-12 17:44                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-12 18:38                                       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-06-12 23:40                                     ` David Miller
2009-06-12 23:43                                       ` David Miller
2009-06-11 18:24                       ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-13  0:30                         ` Ben Dooks [this message]
2009-06-13  9:02                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-13  9:13                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-06-13  9:51                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-13 10:59                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-13 19:36                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-06-15  9:39                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-06-15 12:55                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-15 15:59                                   ` Ian Molton
2009-06-16 15:15                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12  1:33                     ` Ryan Mallon
2009-06-12 12:05                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-14  9:06                     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-11 11:42             ` Brian Swetland
2009-06-11 11:18         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-11 11:34         ` Alan Cox
2009-06-11 17:10       ` Ben Dooks
2009-06-11 17:53     ` Marek Vasut
2009-06-13  0:38     ` Ben Dooks
2009-06-13  2:16       ` David Miller

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