public inbox for linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ramfs: ignore tmpfs options when we emulate it
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:14:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090614121421.GA7949@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd0f97a0906140458s25bdaca9jc5ba2db76da913d7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:58:29PM +0800, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:49, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:26:37PM +0800, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:14, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >> > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 06:46:24PM +0800, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 06:42, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 06:01:10PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> >> >> > Sorry I take back the previous patch. It makes sense to not break
> >> >> > existing user space tools, but a warning message looks OK to remind
> >> >> > people of possibly unexpected behavior.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >                default:
> >> >> >                        printk(KERN_ERR "ramfs: bad mount option: %s\n", p);
> >> >> > -                       return -EINVAL;
> >> >> > +                       break;
> >> >>
> >> >> hmm, if the warning was wrapped in #ifdef CONFIG_SHMEM, i'd be ok with
> >> >> this.  otherwise we end up with warnings that can (should) be ignored
> >> >> when tmpfs is being emulated with ramfs.
> >> >
> >> > We may change the "ramfs:" accordingly. But *silently* ignoring
> >> > options is bad anyway?
> >>
> >> i really hate nitpicking such minor shit, but reality is that output
> >> displayed in the kernel log that is incorrect is going to cause me
> >> grief via customer support, updating documentation, adding FAQs,
> >> etc... and i doubt i'm the only one here.
> >
> > I don't think the message is "incorrect" - it is reminding user the fact.
> 
> when talking about ramfs, the message is correct -- the option is
> wrong.  when talking about tmpfs emulated by ramfs, that may be a
> matter of opinion.  i can understand why you still prefer a warning,
> but there is a significant body of people out there (myself including)
> that views warnings generally as something that should be addressed.

Right. It will upset me, too. It's kind of this situation: "I knew it
(that the option takes no effect), but please shut up!" ;-)

> ignoring that, people who see warnings and dont understand what's
> going on will ask/complain/whatever to someone somewhere.  including
> an explanatory message along side the warning will make that number go
> down, but it wont go away, and it sucks to have to do that.  ive seen

Yes that's truth. People are often ignoring.

> people ask questions where they copy & paste error messages that
> already included explanatory text in it telling them how to
> fix/resolve/research the issue.  i'm sure you have too :).

Too bad this happened to me countless times..

> >> my requirement is simple: valid tmpfs options should be silently
> >> consumed (i.e. ignored) when tmpfs is being emulated by ramfs (i.e.
> >> CONFIG_SHMEM=n).
> >>
> >> so how about:
> >> default:
> >>     if (!strcmp(sb->s_id, "ramfs"))
> >>         printk(KERN_WARNING "%s: ignoring mount option: %s\n", sb->s_id, p);
> >>     break;
> >
> > This is going overly complex, maybe we just revert to Hugh's original
> > patch for *complete* compatibility?
> 
> if my basic requirement is met, i dont care much about the details
> beyond that :).

OK. Let's do it the Hugh way. Thanks for the explanations!

Thanks,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-14 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-13  6:02 [PATCH] ramfs: ignore tmpfs options when we emulate it Mike Frysinger
2009-06-13 14:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-13 14:20   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-13 18:51   ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-14 10:01   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 10:20     ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 10:43       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 10:39     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-14 10:48       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 16:00       ` Matt Mackall
2009-06-14 21:56         ` [PATCH] ramfs: ignore unknown mount options Hugh Dickins
2009-06-14 10:42     ` [PATCH] ramfs: ignore tmpfs options when we emulate it Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 10:46       ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 11:14         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 11:26           ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 11:49             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-14 11:58               ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-14 12:14                 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-06-14 12:16   ` Wu Fengguang

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20090614121421.GA7949@localhost \
    --to=fengguang.wu@intel.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mpm@selenic.com \
    --cc=vapier.adi@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox