From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ring-buffer: add design document
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:05:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090615000557.GB7918@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0906140837370.16299@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 08:39:03AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +Now the writer can update the head page. This is also why the head page must
> > > > > +remain in UPDATE and only reset by the outer most writer. This prevents
> > > > > +the reader from seeing the incorrect head page.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +
> > > > > +(first writer)
> > > > > +
> > > > > + A B tail page
> > > > > + | | |
> > > > > + v v v
> > > > > + +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
> > > > > +<---| |--->| |--->| |--->| |-H->
> > > > > +--->| |<---| |<---| |<---| |<---
> > > > > + +---+ +---+ +---+ +---+
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Even more tricky!
> > > >
> > > > I just have a stupid question: why can't this be done
> > > > only through HEAD and NORMAL flags?
> > > >
> > > > There is something certainly very obvious that I'm missing
> > > > with the point of the UPDATE flag.
> > >
> > > If you can demonstrate how to do the above lockless with just HEAD and
> > > NORMAL, then sure, I'm all ears ;-)
> > >
> > > When we switch the HEAD to UPDATE, we stop the reader from moving forward
> > > and being another thing to handle while we move the HEAD forward. A reader
> > > does a cmpxchg to move the head too, and that cmpxchg will always fail if
> > > the pointer is has UPDATE set. The reader will just spin until it
> > > succeeds.
> >
> >
> > Aah, so it's here to protect against paralell readers from another cpu
> > reading the current cpu buffer, right?
>
> Not readers, but reader. The reader side uses locks to serialize the
> accesses. The writer side is lockless. But it is here to protect the
> writers against a reader on another CPU.
>
> -- Steve
Ok, my problem is that I've read this doc having in mind that the reader
we are talking about is always reading the buffer on the current cpu,
then a writer always preempt it. I forgot that a reader may also read
from another cpu.
Now I understand.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-15 0:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-10 19:53 [PATCH 0/3] [GIT PULL][for 2.6.32] lockless ring buffer Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 19:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] ring-buffer: make the buffer a true circular link list Steven Rostedt
2009-06-11 1:12 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-11 2:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-11 3:25 ` Lai Jiangshan
2009-06-11 3:35 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 19:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] ring-buffer: make lockless Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 19:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] ring-buffer: add design document Steven Rostedt
2009-06-10 22:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-11 1:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-11 3:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-11 3:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-11 4:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-11 18:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-11 0:51 ` Huang Ying
2009-06-11 0:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-11 1:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-11 2:33 ` Huang Ying
2009-06-11 2:38 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2009-06-12 3:13 ` Huang Ying
2009-06-12 3:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-11 3:15 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2009-06-11 3:25 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-13 1:54 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-06-13 2:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-13 22:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-06-14 12:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-15 0:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-06-15 0:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-08 20:13 [PATCH 0/3] [GIT PULL] rebase of lockless ring buffer Steven Rostedt
2009-07-08 20:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] ring-buffer: add design document Steven Rostedt
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